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Response up there on stage? does ted cruz jump in and say, i want to stand up for my friend, ben carson? does the moderators say, excuse me, sir, this is a substantiate debate? >> i think trump will do that. i think he may throw off a zinger. i think if anybody is going to be the focus tonight of attacks, it's going to be rubio. i think that dynamic will be one. >> from jeb bush, you think -- >> no, actually, i think we're going to see jeb bush begin his exit strategy, frankly. i think jeb bush has got to walk away from this race. i think he's got to return to where he was at the beginning, wh...

No, you didn't! yes, i did! i stabbed him and it hit the belt. and they said, you didn't do it! if they said i didn't do it, i would be so happy. this is the only election in history where you're better off if you stabbed somebody. what are we coming to? >> now, obviously, a lot of suspense, if donald trump will say any of that to ben carson's face tonight. but if he does, this is a tricky one, potentially, for the donald. remember, east going after jeb bush, he's going after rand paul, he's had a lot of success doing that. but ben carson is different or potentially different than those other ...

They really weren't -- >> they thought that's a race they can win. >> yeah, totally. and they do still think they can win against marco rubio, but they're worried, because that is a contrast between hillary clinton who's been in politics forever, for all intents and purposes, or marco rubio who's new to the scene and the fresh face. >> and when i look deep in these poll numbers, i think i'm picking up on this, plubio deep in the horse race, when you look at questions about likability and electability, it seems like republicans are starting to thinking ahead and saying, our best bet next to hil...

Like that in the republican primary, how that would work. >> i think jeb bush is trying to carve out a certain space, right? what we've seen is that donald trump, ted cruz, and ben carson are trying to compete for the most conservative voters. and i think jeb bush is trying to find if there's a middle ground to sort of reach out to some of these more moderate folks. and that's where he's saying rubio somebody who could be a problem for him. he might go after him on something like abortion, like you mentioned. he might also start to talk more about marco rubio's background on immigration, you k...

Marco rubio and i support this message. >> you can imagine bush sitting there and watching that. >> one of the dangers when you see the bush super pac strategist talking about willing to spend $20 million against marco rubio to make him look back. when you talk to jeb bush, donors and insiders who aren't on the campaign, some of them will tell you that their next choice is marco rubio. so you risk alienating these people, who, like you, but also like marco rubio. and aren't looking at it as a him versus you. so that's very dangerous, that sort of gingrich scorched earth policy that he had with...