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$14 trillion, and lack of expertise seems to be an asset. >> and how fascinating, jeff, that the same republicans that said barack obama wasn't ready to be president of the united states -- and i didn't believe with his background he was ready to be president of the united states by a long shot. but these same republicans are now reaching out to somebody with even less experience just three years later. >> joe, you're suggesting the consistency is not a driving force in american politics? >> it shocks and stuns me. >> there are two things about that. one is, obama didn't have any experience, s...

House. in iowa this past weekend, michele bauchmann's getting tepid applause, he was treated like a rock star. this was a guy if he could discipline himself for more than a week at a time. if he could discipline that mouth of his -- >> but he can't. >> you can't either. you said you were going to stay out of the conversation. he can gain traction. and actually, jeff, newt gingrich is going up in the polls. we may see a surge by newt in late december. >> i actually had to watch the alabama/lsu game. it's a shame one of those two teams had to win. but i did tape the gingrich/cain thing and watch...

And uncle newt who puts his fingers up and making the three very, very smart points, which you're right about. he is a 19th century figure. but politics, presidential politics, and certainly governing is about more than talking. and we have a record that gingrich talks well sometimes and has just not governed well. >> jeff? >> what i'm suggesting here is something that a very smart pollster mentioned to me a year ago. when i asked her who called -- and i was polling nationally. she said i think at the end of the day or whatever cliche i put in her mouth, the republicans are looking for a probl...

Your own. he was a conservative republican. now there seems to be some war over who ronald reagan was and who has right to climb ideological affiliation with him. >> "time" magazine putsing barack obama and ronald reagan on the cover. or andrea mitchell and jeff greenefield after the state of the union address tried to equate the state of the union address to, gosh, that was just like ronald reagan. the republicans have every right to honor ronald reagan for what he did, not only for the republicans and conservatives but what he did for the united states of america and the world. for andrea mi...

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