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That's for sure. >> helping holbrook adapt is his cellie jeff reddick who has spent more than 17 years incarcerates on a litany of burglary, theft and drug possession convictions and burglary and theft, as well. >> let's put it this way. some people pray to god. i pray to john goti. >> one time i had to correct my mom. she says man, your friends are just bringing you down. i told her, you know, it's not them. it's me bringing them down. >> he's been through a lot. he's been in the system for years and he has good perspective on life. so he's been mentoring me. >> he seems like a good guy. i me...

>> helping holbrook adapt is his cellie jeff reddick who has spent more than 17 years incarcerates on a litany of burglary, theft and drug possession convictions and burglary and theft, as well. >> let's put it this way. some people pray to god, he pray 0 john gotti. >> one time i had to correct my mom. she says man, your friends are just bringing you down. i told her, you know, it's not them. it's me bringing them down. >> he's been through a lot. he's been in the system for years and he has good perspective on life. so he's been mentoring me. >> he seems like a good guy. i mean, as far as go...

Know how everything works and what's going on, you know, with the politics in the pod and everything. >> a better card player. that's for sure. >> helping holbrook adapt is his cellie jeff reddick who has spent more than 17 years incarcerates on a litany of burglary, theft and drug possession convictions and burglary and theft, as well. >> let's put it this way. some people pray to god, i pray to john gotti. ♪ >> one time i had to correct my mom. she says man, your friends are just bringing you down. i told her, you know, it's not them. it's me bringing them down. >> he's an okay celly. he's...

Didn't have a winning scenario. not with the individual that wanted to do me damage. >> holbrook, a former software engineer, is married with twin sons. he spent two years at santa rita waiting for his trial to get under way. >> two years is a long time to wait to see if you're really guilty of a crime. you know what i mean? so it kind of grates on you after awhile. an individual like myself stands out pretty plainly. i don't have a swagger like an inmate or a convict. i think i'm well spoken. i'm pretty quiet. i don't put myself out there in people's faces typically. i don't cause problems. >...

Wanted to do me damage. >> holbrook, a former software engineer, is married with twin sons. he spent two years at santa rita waiting for his trial to get under way. >> two years is a long time to wait to see if you're really guilty of a crime. you know what i mean? so it kind of grates on you after awhile. an individual like myself stands out pretty plainly. i don't have a swagger like an inmate or a convict. i think i'm well spoken. i'm pretty quiet. i don't put myself out there in people's faces typically. i don't cause problems. >> holbrook is -- he's a different breed compared to most of t...