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President's business and personal finances has come up to a red line he's dangerously close to crossing and if he didn't limit his concerns that it was just a witch hunt. whitaker seemed to foreshadow what he might do now that he's acting attorney general. i can see a scenario where jeff session is replaced with a recess appointment and that attorney general doesn't fire bob mueller but reduces his budget so low his investigation grinds to an -- almost a halt. >> reporter: whitaker spent years on the political circuit. >> i'm not sure what we're passing on to the next generation. >> reporter: ...

>> but the enstory is situational ethics. things to look out for here, first of all, the focus on the caravan, the alleged illegal immigrant invasion. discussion of the caravan has basically evaporated since election day. >> it's only been two days. >> but the other thing. >> it was an inp. if would not go away unless it was a political ploy and i don't want to be so sell. this the area be targeted to the central american community and mexican communities? >> we have only 30 seconds this, happens on whitaker's first day, but i don't know -- i mean, we had heard that attorney general sessions w...

Important to put it in the broader context. we don't have evidence that these are the scary folks that the conservatives are trying to make them out to be, so it looked like this is another deterrent, but for people who might be more in need. >> so to ted's point. this is legal. we've been seeing this for now nas the caravan is. they want to stop them. >> but the way they want to stop them is the -- conservatives said throughout that% can't maintain it, they have to -- now the represent canful which by the way used to be uniformly republican is now unable to get any legislation passed and chan...

Of the country. i think the idea that you sparked, what will be interesting is if this immigration turnout backfired, will he shake up his inner circle? will he shake up steve miller? will he shake up john kelly? are they the one he decides you gave me the wrong advice week, in deeper problem than we possibly could have imagined and do you see a shake-up there. >> i don't think those two are going somewhere, but jeff session, lindsey graham. >> and lindsey graham is like passing his resume. >> not to be totally debbie downer, but i think he is going to dig in more to this strategy of political...

How concerned might they be about copy cats? >> i think in this environment and, listen, i do think we are sort of in a political high atmospheric level here. i do think there's some of that. you have to wonder if you're a copycat, you have to consider just how competent the united states government is in tracking down this stuff. so maybe there's a measure of trepidation since we were able to get this guy so quickly. >> dana: now the latest from washington, catherine herridge. are you there? >> reporter: i am. i'm on the phone. we were just doing some technical setup. you can imagine, got a l...