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Many were asking yesterday and many probably are asking around april 15th every year all things considered do we actually need the i.r.s., do we need them? joining us now senior economics writer of the "wall street journal" steve moore and president and ceo of the freedom works. matt. 4 matt the tea party is a relatively new movement and steve i'll bring you back to some of your writing in 1998 it was a good year. you get to start first. you wrote an article titled abolish the tax code not the i.r.s. do you still feel that way? >> well, by the way, i'm impressed with your history lesson you ga...

And all of the politician has want to use the the handouts in the tax code we have to do this from the outside. literally the person people are the only people that can get this done. it's not going to happen inside the beltway. i think yesterday's protest was part of that, but with the transparency and all of the strength we get through the internet we have an ability to impose an accountability on washington we've never had before. jenna: that is interesting . >> you're so right about that, matt. because the whole central power, the central power system of the federal government really comes...

The atf. and i fact checked that, steve, just to be sure it is still true. it is still true, the i.r.s. as a single agency is bigger than all those agencies combined. you worked on a government commission once where people wrote and said they felt bullied and intimidated by this agency, and so it's been happening for years. so what is to say if we replace it with another agency even if it's smaller that the same thing doesn't start happening again? >> that is a great question. by the which just to add what you were saying there are also morris r- moreno i.r.s. agents than border patrol agents....

Arias, and he said who? put her in a cave where she can never get to a tv camera ever again. jenna: i'll be looking forward to see how the intern does in the next few weeks or months. >> he has a future. i like him. jenna: we'll have him on next time as well. good to see you. jon: the latest on a very strange case out of massachusetts. new england patriot's tight end aaron hernandez he is reportedly facing arrest. helicopters followed him from his home today in his white car. ironically 19 years after the oj simpson white bronco case. they followed him in his white suv, there was some reportin...

>> r eporter: on tuesday the head of the nsa testified that there are at least a thousand government employees like nsa leaker edward snowden who have broad access to the networks containing these highly classified documents. >> how many people were in the same position as snowden was as a systems manager to have access to this information that could be damaging if released? >> there is on the order of a thousand system administrators. the majority are contractors. >> reporter: we don't know this morning whether there were any background check problems with snowden's security clearance, though...