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To make sure that these devices can be hacked into. clearly they had taken measures for the cameras that are usually in that room, to cover them up. >> it was just an auditorium? >> it was an auditorium they had to jerry-rig. when i was coming back, if we're being fiscally conservative, the expense that was taken to jerry-rig that room, to transport 100 senators, when there are so-called skiffs, secure locations in the senate, which is usually how we're briefed. i've been to briefings in the three-plus years i've been in the senate that have been more dramatic, with more significant informatio...

The language of our president, maybe it was to talk about an aumf, authorization for the use of military force. but we got there and it really was -- again, good dialogue is good, but underwhelming for the drama of bringing the senate there. where you brought 100 people to the white house, when easily those four or five briefers could have come to an actual skiff. to walk into this room that they had transformed, i mean, they had used macgyver, putting a tent over a camera, i mean -- you can clearly see that they had tried to go through a lot of details to do it. >> putting a tent over a camer...

To walk into this room that they had transformed, i mean, they had used macgyver, putting a tent over a camera, i mean -- you can clearly see that they had tried to go through a lot of details to do it. >> putting a tent over a camera? >> you want to make sure -- secure areas, usually turning your apple watch or your phone to make sure that these devices can be hacked into. clearly they had taken measures for the cameras that are usually in that room, to cover them up. >> it was just an auditorium? >> it was an auditorium they had to jerry-rig. when i was coming back, if we're being fiscally c...

A public place like times square? >> it all depends on the circumstances. one aspect of this is -- and we saw this in najibullah zazi case here, it's very difficulties to get explosives. you'll see these individuals trying to put it together. we had zazi, who used a beauty supply products -- >> peroxide and -- >> in this case we see firecrackers that are legally available, pennsylvania, for instance, you can get these types of fireworks. they are m-88s. that in a way is good news. you see them trying to jerry rig rather than take readily made explosives. >> worst case scenario if it had went o...