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The islamic state last february, isis said they were going to send 500,000 refugees into europe. that's before the crisis began. in september, one of their operatives said, we already sent 4,000 jihadis into europe. they estimated there were 20,000 active jihadis among the refugees in his country. it's absolutely impossible to tell the jihadis from genuine refugees. we shouldn't take even one of them. but the denial as you point out, sean, it's universal. the presidential candidates are saying this is not a problem, not a threat, and we should bring these people in solely on humanitarian groun...

Terrorists among them. the islamic state last february, isis said they were going to send 500,000 refugees into europe. that's before the crisis began. in september, one of their operatives said, we already sent 4,000 jihadis into europe. they estimated there were 20,000 active jihadis among the refugees in his country. it's absolutely impossible to tell the jihadis from genuine refugees. we shouldn't take even one of them. but the denial as you point out, sean, it's universal. the presidential candidates are saying this is not a problem, not a threat, and we should bring these people in solel...

And baghdadi is calling on muslims to unite behind of a ka lifate called the islamic state. they have been to iraq. and lieutenant lieutenant colonel bill cowan, great to see you. baghdadi is demanding a jihad attack the infedells. will it work? >> there is a good chance it is going to work. isis is adept at social media and they have been reaching out with twitter and facebook and youtube and anything they can to generate interest from various sonies around the world and get many sunnis to join them and that is indeed happening. and we have numbers of 350 americans there and 2,000 europeans.

A guy, a recruit trying to get on do a jihad attack like nissan has san. norfolk, the navy yard, these guys know if you get a weapon past security, nobody will be armed, you can kill people with impunity. >> you mentioned norfolk. there have been 13 shootings at bases involving our military since 2009 when the first fort hood shooting happened. you were alsoç talking about the number of suicides of military members. this we believe may be at this point soldier on soldier. clearly he was being treated for mental health issues. how do you think that ties in? >> it ties in directly. i don't thi...

Interrogate the over a long period of time. i want to be able to talk to him without a lawyer present to gather intelligence about future attacks that may have come our way. none of the information can be used against him in his trial. i am know worried -- a first-year law student can convict this guy -- >> with the videotape. >> with a million things. >> with the videotape. >> i am worried about having time with him to establish a rapport and to gather intelligence without his lawyer being present. >> one of the oddities of the statute, in order to be eligible, you have to have a connection t...