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Opportunity like this should be met with opportunity, not fear. lots to be afraid of when it comes to leaving your job. why is it so important we come to understand not only how you can greet job changes with enthusiasm, but why is it important we have an awareness about how important it is to change jobs? >> because with changing jobs comes a rediscovering. with changing jobs comes the possibility of innovation. with changing jobs comes the ability to change the course of your not only professional life, but personal growth. i think it's in line with the work you're doing with the 30 million ...

Quit. and there will be some holes in the resume. so unless you're destitute or really, i mean, back to the wall and -- >> larry: well, if you're out of work, you've got to take a job. >> absolutely. then you have to take a job temporarily. okay. but if you can hold off, next week might be the job that you ultimately will get. so only if your back is to the wall, take that job. economically. >> larry: can i ask you some larger things? do you see an end to this job problem in america? >> well, here's what we're talking about. against, federal -- these are all federal bureau of labor statistics....

Quit. and there will be some holes in the resume. so unless you're destitute or really, i mean, back to the wall -- >> larry: well, if you're out of work, you've got to take a job. >> absolutely. then you have to take a job temporarily. okay. but if you can hold off, next week might be the job that you ultimately will get. so only if your back is to the wall, take that job. economically. >> larry: can i ask you some larger things? do you see an end to this job problem in america? >> well, here's what we're talking about. against, federal -- these are all federal bureau of labor statistics. the...

A year and things they could give me advice. >> i used to be cheese and cheese flavored things) went on and i used to always be paranoid about it. greg: i can smell it. you are right. discussing the let's talk the topic at hand. everyone is talking about job changes and the chaos and is this bad or is this a bunch of media hysteria? >> media history. i think this happens every administration that you talk about the people shuffle in and out. the issue here is obviously that is donald trump and everyone is waiting for mostly in the media waiting for the next breadcrumbs to fall so they can pick...

>> ashley, your last point bears repeating. we talked about it here last night. what if they really need the fbi and the department of justice, what if god forbid the president's job changes on a dime and we're chasing down a domestic terrorist threat where the work of the fbi, no more important than it is right now tonight, but has to seem important to justify an action, perhaps, the president wants to take? >> that's exactly right. and one of the risks with all of this is the president is sort of thinking in a very short term and doing what he has always done, which is eroded trust in the me...