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This is part and parcel to a spending bill. i don't think you can talk to any small business person in america who doesn't tell you one of the greatest challenges they have is dealing with obama care and small business is the job engine of america. it brings in revenue. i think we are derelict if we didn't try to deal with obama care. we get it. they rejected defunding. now we are putting on the table delay. the united states senate, they can be the slowest institution in america. when they want to, they can be the quickest. they can snap their fingers and deem a bill. we have all weekend. we ...

But there is bad blood ms. rawlins and how do you see the thing? >> well, here is the thing, bill. i have to say that when you compare the two states there, really is no reason why entrepreneurs would decide to stay in california. we have had more than a thousand people a day moving to texas over the last few years that's because california has 34% higher taxes. 33% bigger government. when you look at the cost of regulation, a small business owner is about $130,000 a year. texas is the country's job engine. it's been the case for many years now. and what's really interesting. >> bill: is it fa...

But there is bad blood ms. rawlins and how do you see the thing? >> well, here is the thing, bill. i have to say that when you compare the two states there, really is no reason why entrepreneurs would decide to stay in california. we have had more than a thousand people a day moving to texas over the last few years that's because california has 34% higher taxes. 33% bigger government. when you look at the cost of regulation, a small business owner is about $130,000 a year. texas is the country's job engine. it's been the case for many years now. and what's really interesting. >> bill: is it fa...

I'm not going to repeat it. but there is bad blood ms. rawlins and how do you see the thing? >> well, here is the thing, bill. i have to say that when you compare the two states there, really is no reason why entrepreneurs would decide to stay in california. we have had more than a thousand people a day moving to texas over the last few years that's because california has 34% higher taxes. 33% bigger government. when you look at the cost of regulation, a small business owner is about $130,000 a year. texas is the country's job engine. it's been the case for many years now. and what's really in...

His position and doesn't really carry about the consequences. this is a great country. jobs are important. you need investment capital to create jobs and no matter how he tries to repackage it he still is on the wong side of american's job engine. >>neil: do you thing the issue of his former wife coming out on abc and saying this stuff, she has said in prior interviews i believe, but she detailed them more, should be an issue in the debate? should come up? the other candidates including mitt romney have not brought it up? >>guest: why want did go there that is between newt gingrich, his wives ...