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>> first of all, we're no longer litigating the bush administration. this is about 2011, 2012. >> but if you want to litigate it. >> 52 straight months of job growth between 2001 and 2008. he came in with a recession and left with a recession, but 52 straight months of job growth. >> we had jobless recovery. >> why was the average job rate 5.5%? it was the virtually the same as bill clinton. but with a $1.4 trillion deficit in 2011, where is the presidential leadership? >> wimy point is, it's not -- wn you have a job machine that has broken down, it's been broken

>> we have got a deeper problem. >> first of all, we're no longer litigating the bush administration. this is about 2011, 2012. >> but if you want to litigate it. >> 52 straight months of job growth between 2001 and 2008. he came in with a recession and left with a recession, but 52 straight months of job growth. >> we had jobless recovery. >> why was the average job rate 5.5%? it was the virtually the same as bill clinton. but with a $1.4 trillion deficit in 2011, where is the presidential leadership? >> my point is, it's not -- when you have a job machine that has broken down, it's been brok...

I do think it is one of the reasons why businesses and particularly small businesses that liz was referring to aren't hiring and we need them to hire to get the job machine going and get unemployment down is that they are uncertain. we are debating lots of important policy issues and i think we need to do it and one of those are the tax cuts. the uncertainty that creates is causing them to freeze. i think it is important for congress and the administration to nail this down quickly one way or the other to get clarity to allow the small businesses to start hiring again. >> bret: quickly about w...

I do think it is one of the reasons why businesses and particularly small businesses that liz was referring to aren't hiring and we need them to hire to get the job machine going and get unemployment down is that they are uncertain. we are debating lots of important policy issues and i think we need to do it and one of those are the tax cuts. the uncertainty that creates is causing them to freeze. i think it is important for congress and the administration to nail this down quickly one way or the other to get clarity to allow the small businesses to start hiring again. >> bret: quickly about w...

I do think it is one of the reasons why businesses and particularly small businesses that liz was referring to aren't hiring and we need them to hire to get the job machine going and get unemployment down is that they are uncertain. we are debating lots of important policy issues and i think we need to do it and one of those are the tax cuts. the uncertainty that creates is causing them to freeze. i think it is important for congress and the administration to nail this down quickly one way or the other to get clarity to allow the small businesses to start hiring again. >> bret: quickly about w...