He joins us now for the interview. mr. trumka, thank you very much for being here. it's a real honor to have you, sir. >> rachel, thanks for having me on. i wanted to ask you for a favor. >> yeah. >> i wanted to borrow your crisis siren and light so we could let these guys know that there's a job crisis out there and they ought to be creating jobs, not trying to destroy middle-class jobs like they're doing. so if you'd send it to me, i'll use it, i promise. >> i got you. although i think it's probably going to come up. it's amazing. i made a list today of all the things we had on tap to talk a...