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Defending themselves. however, break dot-dot, you know, you have to look at what's best for this nation first and how that's anti-semitic i don't know and that's the issue as far as i can tell regarding the rhetoric of hagel. >> john, another issue of particular of those like me on the left is hagel's comments that he made back in 1998 opposing president clinton's ambassador or nominee to be ambassador calling him openly aggressively gay and recently apologized for the comments and you were really instrumental in getting don't ask don't tell repelled so how do people with an equality for lgbt ...

Previous mention. jobs is the number one issue and voters are starting to gravitate towards the message on jobs and the economy and the contrast he draws with the president and the disastrous economic policies. >> holly, let's talk about the jobless numbers i was talking to john about. 8.5% is the unemployment rate right now when the president took office was 7.8%. >> come november, do we think the president will be able to make the argument successfully that you know what, things may not be great, but they are not as bad as they were three or four years ago. how effective will that be? >> it'...

In the far end corners of the world. >> john, hagel served in war and voted to send soldiers to war and history won't look kindly of the yes votes for iraq war in 2002 and i think what's so interesting about him is he grappled with that as the years went on and as he came to sort of reassess that vote and i think changed sort of his foreign policy philosophy and intervention and war. i wonder when you look at his evolution over a decade an you look at this -- the issue of iran and loom large over four years, how do you think his evolution will affect how he approaches iran? >> i think it's goi...

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Marriage. i think also he saw it in the previous mention. jobs is the number one issue and voters are starting to gravitate towards the message on jobs and the economy and the contrast he draws with the president and the disastrous economic policies. >> holly, let's talk about the jobless numbers i was talking to john about. 8.5% is the unemployment rate right now when the president took office was 7.8%. >> come november, do we think the president will be able to make the argument successfully that you know what, things may not be great, but they are not as bad as they were three or four years...