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John dowd, the lead attorney for the president, the lead outside counsel resigning. and john roberts is at the white house with more on this. john, what more do we know about why john dowd is leaving the president's side? >> well, i think the writing was kind of on the wall, rick, when the president announced last week that out of the blue or was it earlier this week, i mean -- what was it gary cohen resigned? last year or the year before? it was earlier this week that the president hired the noted former u.s. attorney, also believes that the f.b.i. had a conspiracy at the highest levels to fr...

That willingly but when you get into the fake news and the foreign propaganda and the exploitation of some, like cambridge analytica, maybe there are other firms that have done the same thing, then it is a betrayal of trust. i think zuckerberg is starting to recognize that. the question is, is he willing to take finally aggressive action to do something about it or will that trust continue to erode? >> rick: one way to avoid all of this. don't go on facebook. >> a lot of people i think are start to go have that idea. it's difficult especially professionally when so many people operate on that ...

Lawyer in the special counsel inquiry has resigned. that news coming down just today. fox news politics editor joins us now. this is big news for the president's legal team. but not much of a surprise considering the two had been sort of at odds over whether or not the president should sit down with robert mueller. what's your reaction? >> pretty jaded up in new york. i was surprised! >> julie: we're talking about -- >> i know what you mean. >> julie: we're talking about the trump administration here. >> i know just what you mean, my friend. but in this case, i would say it was pretty preposte...

Of the president by robert mueller. but again, rick, with the parameters of what mueller can talk about with the president very narrowly defined. one of the things that john dowd has been doing over the last couple of months is building a legal case to say to mueller and his investigators, look, if you want to interview the president, you have to have a strong case here that only the president can give you information that you can't get from anywhere else. and it was dowd who compiled the list of documents that the white house in the transition have produced to the mueller investigation. it wa...

The new f.b.i. director is trying to clear it out. and after eight years of having an obama administration that used the government as a political weapon, it is refreshing to see folks getting in and trying to actually have the government focused on the task that's assigned to do. >> julie: all right, david and isaac. >> one thick we can agree on, trump should answer questions under oath. >> julie: if he wants to talk to the special counsel, that says a lot. he won't be going in there and lying. you have to give him that. appreciate it. thank you very much. >> rick: what does this resignation ...