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How they really have influence? it's when the mainstream media shows them. like if on monday breitbart writes something attacking javanka or cohn or something and the cable news networks puts them out there, that's where they really have the power. >> okay, thank you all. john, you take it, buddy. thank you for coming on. we'll see you next time. >> thanks for having me. thank you very much. >> thank you all. just ahead i'm going to talk to a pastor who has resigned from president trump's evangelical advisory board. i'll ask him why. e tired of being surprised with extra monthly fees. we wan...

Networks. political contributor michael nulter, the former democratic mayor of philadelphia. matt lewis, senior columnist for "the daily beast." john fred ricks, former co-chair for the trump campaign in virginia and robert cutner, the co-founder and co-editor of the american prospect magazine and he joins us via skype. it's going to be a fascinating conversation and fascinating hour ahead. april, going through those cards and the week, i mean what a week it has been. it has been exhausting, a lot has transpired. you're at the white house every day. bannon is out, but there's deep wounds that ...

That, some senators walking away. >> john, what do you think, remember i've got a big brain or good mind or good brain. i hired the best people. all of these people are gone. what does that say? what do you think of this, john? >> well, i guess if he's hiring the best people, he should probably hire some of us, right, don? let's start there. but it's the game on, what happened here today. it's game on. and that's about as frank as i can be. you know, the detractors inside the west wing that are celebrating tonight because they were part of steve bannon's ouster, you know, my mom taught me an o...

>> go ahead, david. >> well, then he is too. >> but david duke did say -- david duke did say, mr. president, you better watch what you said because we are who supported you. now, do you negate that and say that didn't happen? david duke, who was a high leader in the kkk said that. that is fact. that's not myth, it's not conjecture, he said that. and then he supported him with that waffling statement, the last statement that the president made about both sides. so you cannot say that i'm creating this. i am only reporting fact, and i'm reporting what is given to us by these leaders around this ...

Obviously there are a lot of people inside the white house what are not fans of bannon. he clashed with a lot of advisor. you have general john kelly coming in as the new chief of staff wanting to clean up shop, wanting to stop leaks, wanting to get rid of a lot of that infighting that's going on. but the timing of it, the timing of it, having it happen now in the wake of the charlottesville remarks, and especially with the sort of light support of trump from his various councils, various companies, foundations pulling out, saying they aren't going to be holding any more events at mar-a-lago, ...