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Go ahead and continue. sorry about that. >> well, i -- that's fine. i was just saying to infer that this group of crazy fringe white nationalists are part or even a significant part of donald trump's base voters and part of his political calculations are absurd. in 2008 and 2012 people who were casting their ballots for barack obama switched their vote and did not vote for hillary clinton and voted for donald trump, and that's what helped actually put him over the edge. >> that was a website for the alt-right, john. >> perhaps. i have seen breitbart -- >> okay. again, we're losing that signal.

Rightly, there is pressure and attention focused on how the president responds. >> john, what do you think about people saying that possibly this is politically motivated. president trump did not want to lose the base of his supporters. we know that president trump gets strong support from whut nationalists and the alt right. case in point, david duke endorsed president trump during the campaign. do you feel this is simply just an oversight? >> to extrapolate that a few crazy white nationalists all of a sudden are reflective of donald trump's base voters, i mean, is ridiculous. if you look at ...

Let's give david ciders the last word. if you look at just the way republican lawmakers are tweeting and clearly it's a message to president trump because you've got senator orrin hatch, republican senator ted cruz. they're specifically using the words white supremacy. this is domestic terrorism. what does this say about this disconnect? how do you -- how do we reconcile this disconnect between the republican president and his lawmakers? >> there clearly is attention there. i think john is -- the current of what john is saying is right. this is one person who drove a car into a mob tonight, an...

Monumental shift. >> are you sproud of the way president trump responded today condemning the violence on many sides, many sides? >> look, i'm pleased he held a press conference. i'm pleased he made several tweets, and i understand his point. i don't feel that he did go far enough. i think he should have called out the white supremacists for the hatred that they spew. look, i mean, i wasn't there, but i have watched the footage that you have had on your air, and i have seen both sides that were not behaving peacefully. again, that does not -- >> to imply -- john, to imply a moral ekwifl ensy, ...

Not distancing himself and calling out david duke as well? >> i think the tough line that john talks about -- the real tough line that the president has is that many of these people are his supporters. this is a president who was a candidate tapped into racial ang zpliet in the country. not just economic anxiety. he tapped into these emotions that really are apparent in the united states. i think the problem or the fear or if you want to talk about failing, the reason that people around the country are watching this incident tonight and are worried about it, yes, it's in part because of the pr...