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It can help us be a little more courteous to each other and more respectful. leland: is there anything for republicans to take from his legacy specifically? >> yeah, i think -- i would say that his service and his respect forp each other is really what you and i are talking about. i think that's probably one of the keys to his life and his success was a willingness to appreciate opposing viewpoints. i mean, he was a tough guy, but i think he also was very concerned and loved people. leland: yeah, often said that one of his big worries in the words of john mechem is that when politics and princ...

Her obsession over this alleged tape. nancy cook, a white house reporter for politico. danny cevallos is an msnbc legal analyst. john me chum, let me ask you a big picture question. when you see what's going on. when you see people taping each other, including in the situation room, when you have the president tweeting and calling a woman a dog. it goes on and on and on. what does it say about the culture of this white house, john? >> it's not recorded whether jefferson and washington taped each other in washington's cabinet. my picture's a little fuzzy. this is exhibit 6,012 so to speak -- >>...

Enforce it across the board because of that. >> the way one national security official put it, john, about the tapings, is the sanctity of the situation room was violated, not to mention security. there it is, i don't use this word nicely. a certain reference paid to the white house in my experience to people who work here to its history, to its reputation as a world as a symbol of dom i. do you think everything going on there now has changed that, maybe even been shattered by this administration? will it -- will we look at the white house and what goes on there differently ten years from now,...

Endurance that, in fact, i don't -- depending on who comes next, i think we can restore that. it's important to remember that 44 years ago this month, a lot of people, as richard nixon went to san clemente, thought we would never have that kind of respect for the white house again. president ford very quickly restored that. what everyone thinks about carter and reagan and bush, you did have a pretty quick restoration of that respect. i hope that continues again. but the president is making this as difficult as possible. >> john mechem, much appreciated. in the next hour, omarosa will join us...