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CNN Special Report-20151010-05:17:00

his father was furious. so furious he threatened a local cop. you guys are going to find out how bad i am, he told the officer. i made the call and busby got his. you are the only one that knows that for sure now. years later after the statute of limitations had passed on busby's case, melvin's brother, john reine told police he was in the car the night melvin shot busby. and he says, shirley was too. >> i think she knew everything melvin ever did. including his first wife, the two young men who were killed and everything involved. >> but shirley's best friend, kathy, calls the allegations pure lies. what about those who say that shirley wasn't as innocent as some say? >> they're lying. >> that she was. they say that she was maybe an accomplice in some of melvin's actions. >> they're lying. they're lying.

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:44:00

>> no. >> reporter: the latest chapter in a sordid family drama that plays out lakeike a hollywood script. the reine family once run by notorious arsonist. later divided over the family fortune. and then, destroyed by the murder of one of their own. the da said this man pulled the trigger. >> they always told me that they ble believed that rams did it. did he do it? i am not 100% convinced. buzz he ask was he asked to do it? i believe he was. >> reporter: by whom? >> buy todd. >> reporter: todd reine, shirley's stepson. something john rams said over and over. >> john rams repeatedly told investigators todd reine wanted shirley dead and he was willing

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:17:00

>> just two and a half years later, there appeared to be a break through. when melvin's son todd then 17 got a traffic ticket. his father was furious. so furious he threatened a local cop. you guys are going to find out how bad i am, he told the officer, i made the call and busby got his. you are the only one that knows that for sure now. years later after the statute of limitations had passed on busby's case. melvin any brother. john reine told police he was in the car the night melvin shot busby. and he says, shirley was into. >> i think she knew everything melvin ever did. including his first wife, the two young men who were killed and everything involved. >> reporter: but shirley's best friend, kathy, calls the allegations "pure lies." what about those who say that shirley wasn't as innocent as

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:53:15

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:39:00

john received the stunning news that he, not todd, was being charged for the murder of shirley reine. >> with the area that -- todd hired you. to do this just like he hired you to steal the safe. >> if john knew what happened to shirley reine, this was the last chance to say so. >> i was never, ever, even in the room with this woman ever. how could, how does this happen? >> coming up -- >> there was no fiber, fingerprint, dna, trace, ballistics, foot impressions, from john rams, none whatsoever.

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:37:00

authorities todd reine wanted her dead. why wasn't the report? it's hard to say. it does make you wonder. you know? what's going on here. >> reporter: we asked the dea who said the threat against shirley isn't in the report because john never discussed it. but john's attorney who was also present at that meeting confirmed to us he most certainly did. >> it could have been avoided. really could have. that life could have been saved. >> reporter: by may 9, 20005. it twwas too late. >> i tried. gave them two years in advance they still didn't do anything. >> reporter: after shirley's death, police launched a murder investigation. but instead, wound up solving the burglary case. >> during the murder investigation they came across information that led them to

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:35:00

when she came out of the movies. i don't know how she lived like that. i said, oh, cut it out. they're just pulling your leg. they're just trying to scare you. little did i know. >> reporter: little did loretta know that acourting according rams, a plan was booing hatched. did he tell you that he wanted to kill shirley reine? >> he wanted me to shoot shirley. goen her house and shoo shoot her for him. >> reporter: john insists that he never agreed to do it. but that todd was deter menned to make it happen with or without him. >> he said he wanted it to look like a mob hit. i am just listening to this guy. >> reporter: did you warn authorities after talking to todd? >> yeah, absolutely i did. >> reporter: two years before shirley was killed, john says he had a secret meeting with state and federal law enforcement to

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:47:00

dimentia. he was unable to even attend his wife's trial. but his son todd did. and john ram's attorney, timothy flahe flaherty made sure jurors knew it. >> there had to be a question in his mind. they believe todd reine is the person who paid john rams to dupe thi -- to do this. yet he is sitting in the score the room. how is that. >> the that was the most compelling argument i made in the trial. john rams, where is todd reine. sitting in the gallery not at counsel table. why isn't he charged? the man with motive, opportunity, means. why didn't they charge him? >> why didn't they ever charge reine? >> a better question for michael o'keefe. >> reporter: cape cod district attorney mike cam o'keefe declined our request for an interview. >> i believe that if law enforcement had enough information to charge either one of the reines, or both of them,

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:46:00

informants including one former cellmate who testified that john confessed i killed her with a gun supplied by todd reine. >> all of the prosecution had was a collection of -- informants and people who weren't very credible. >> i thought it was, full of misrepresentation. and outward, deceit and lies actually. >> mr. rams any comment today? >> reporter: two people who never gave their stories -- shirley's two stepsons. >> todd reine and melvin reine jr. were both on the witness list. and the prosecution wanted to question them on the stand. but they both pleaded the 5th. >> reporter: shirley's husband melvin sr. never took the stand either. still institutionalized with

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CNN Special Report-20150903-01:38:00

todd reine as the the ringleader of the theft of the safe. >> while his brother, melvin jr. was never implicated, todd, john rams, and an accomplice were convicted of the theft and sent to prison in september 20007. which allowed investigators a unique opportunity to build shirley's murder case while their two main suspects were locked up. >> they definitely were trying to get john rams to flip. they want to john rams several times trying to get him to talk. >> reporter: and talk he did. between 2005 and 2011, john rams willingly spoke to police at least seven times. >> he said, "i didn't do it but --" todd reine wanted her dead. >> reporter: despite repeated denials in december, 2011.

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