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But also in many other ways. in the year of the woman after monumental gains were democrats, it would be very difficult for democrats to look away from of female candidates who has led this party through ups and downs for the last 16 years. she absolutely has two more years, and we will see what happens after the presidential race whether she sees another term. i expect that she certainly will be elected speaker once again. >> ebony: okay, john, i'm going to ask you the same question. putting on your opposite isle hat, you are a democrat, you see the types of leaders they have elected as a loc...

A further left vision then even pelosi offered, but pelosi is like the drug problem you can quit. you keep saying you're going to do it, but you go back to it each time. there is one reason why. it comes down to the money. pelosi is a great fund-raiser, and these freshman members know that a lot of the air support cash that she brought to them, they are going to need that cash again in 2020. it is hypocrisy at its worst, but i will warn democrats thus, nancy pelosi is the romain of the lattice world. she is so toxic. so poisonous, she may cost them the majority. >> ebony: john, let me ask you ...

The president used that moment to return to a favorite hobbyhorse of his, criticizing the 9th circuit court of appeals headquartered in california. >> well, you go to the 9th circuit and it's a disgrace. and i'm going to put in a major complaint. because you cannot win if you're us in a case in the 9th circuit. every case that gets filed in the 9th circuit we get beaten and they we end up having to go to the supreme court like the travel ban, and we won. the 9th circuit, we're going to have to look at that. this was an obama judge. and i tell you what. it's not going to happen like this anymor...

And his broader standing without having to engage at all. and in some cases having less of a megaphone it turns out, especially when the person with the megaphone is saying divisive incendiary, and sometimes moronic things it's better to be quieter sometimes in these fights. >> up against a commercial break. i'm going to award 15 seconds to mr. costa and then 15 seconds to ms. wiley and that's got to be it, you kids. >> very quickly, the timing as john mentioned is so critical. this comes right before bob mueller likely issues his report on the president's conduct. it's institutional erosion f...

Bench. no other president has done this of any party. and say i am going to ignore whether or not they deem a candidate for the bench qualified. that is an incredible low. >> john, we've just heard from two people, neal katyal and maya wiley, who have spent their adult lives in the law. this is an emotional topic. john roberts has also spent his adult life in the law, perhaps at a higher level. there's taciturn, and then there's john roberts. what did it take for john roberts to do what he did today? >> it's a really good question, brian. i think that one of the things that you know about john...