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Because recently, we've had an issue with both of our republican candidates for governor, and the tea party 9/12 groups have shown a great amount of maturity and a great amount of growth. there were a lot of people initially involved that hadn't been involved politically before, and they are signing in and saying, look, we've got to get behind republican candidates across the board from sheriff down to united states senate, because to do otherwise really puts our freedom/liberty in this state and in this country in jeopardy. >> john, do you disagree with that strategy? >> oh, i guess, yes and ...

Raids and somewhere along the line i learned that mel was also a drummer, so we began playing some other things at that time. >> and mel, what used to happen when you showed up at political events and rallies and you started playing a fife and drum, what sort of effect would it have on people there? >> well, it really had a good effect. we've had an excellent tea party and 9/12 group here in northern colorado, and it was really very motivational, going both ways. because people got pretty pumped up and i speak for myself and i think john would agree that it's a reciprocal kind of motivation. >...

Revolutionary war, both british and american armies had fife and drum players in their infantry. but now now the liberty leaders have split. there's only two of them, fife and drum, but they are fiving and drumming together no longer. they've gone their separate ways because of politics. joining us now are the two members of the duo, formally known as the liberty leaders, john, the fife player, and mel, who plays the field snare. gentleman, thank you so much for being here tonight. really appreciate your time. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> mr. weans, let me start with you. how d...

Representing the current regime, sheriff's regime, and there are certain things that need to be looked at and probably cleaned up. and that can't happen if you just continue on the same path. you need somebody new like carl bruning to kind of clean things up and get things back on track. so -- >> all right, well -- >> go ahead, sir. >> well, both, yes, both candidates are republican, but there's an awful lot of differences. >> all right. well, john weins and mel hilgenberg, between you, sort of acting out the compromise is okay versus compromise is not okay fights happening within the conserva...

I'll just bully you and get in there and say. not so much in terms of why you're supporting that individual candidate, but if you were working together so closely for 16 months, why is this so divisive between you? can't you sort of live and let live and each support a different candidate? both candidates are on the conservative side of the spectrum, aren't they? >> yes. >> well, well in -- on the last parade, both candidates had their own contingency, and so i was with one group and mel was with the other group. so never the twine shall me, i guess. >> mel, your response to that is, yes, it s...