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And accepted russia's help to, again, unfairly tilt the playing field in his favor. if we don't wrestle this monster to the ground now via an impeachment hearing, don't we think the president will be emboldened to lie, cheat and steal, maybe call in some of his new newly acquired friends, kim jong-un, vladimir putin, to tilt the field in his favor. the only option is to open impeachment hearings and wrestle this thing to the ground. >> thank you for joining me. i want to pick up that conversation, nancy pelosi is facing growing pressure to open impeachment hearings about president trump. nbc's...

Report actually included instances of obstruction of justice. they're making the calculation it's just bad politics for them to move forward. i think pelosi doesn't want to run into a wall of the senate voting no on removal and certainly doesn't want to lose her house majority. >> always good to see you. jonathan alan, nbc national political reporter. former special counsel robert mueller says he doesn't want to testify before congress about his report. will the house judiciary committee be forced to subpoena him. we're going to ask democratic committee member next. you're watching "velshi & r...

Subpoenas, evidence, and go to court. that would change nothing. >> do you think your committee is in a position to or wants to to continue to go after testimony from both barr and mueller? >> well, personally i think barr has proven himself to be not very honest and kind of a spin master. i'm very less interested personally in hearing from him. we have expressed an interest in hearing from mr. mueller and i know there are ongoing discussions with him. so we will see how that turns out. >> you mentioned that you were a staffer during the nixon years and a house member during the clinton impeac...

Since special counsel robert mueller spoke out clarifying that he could not exonerate the president from obstruction and had he had the evidence to do so, he would have done so. with me now political reporter jonathan alan. that number, a few days ago, i was reporting it was in the 30s. tell me what's going on and why speaker pelosi continues to downplay the calls for impeachment. >> i think a couple of things are at work here. it is growing. when nancy pelosi said the other day that it was 38, that was the number of people who had publicly called either for impeachment or for at least opening...

News "washington post" survey at an all time high. now at 60% in the abc poll with a 36% approval rating. for now, this is the only poll to show trump's approval that low. the question is, is this poll an outlier or a start of a trend that couldn't come at a worse time for republicans? on the line two months from now. our legal panel for a friday night. for the news hour on pbs, white house reporter for the associated press and jonathan alan, political reporter. thank you for being with us. thomas from the ap. let me start with the ap and its reporting this afternoon on donald trump's state of...