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We know the media loves a good horse race, but does that dynamic weigh in on the coverage of d.c. now? with all of the ups and downs this week, it's hard for anyone to keep up, even the reporters who are sboezed to cover it. we're getting detailed coverage of any response, efforterance but are we missing the broader story about this incredibleability of spending being proposed? where me is charlotte author from "time" magazine and jonathan cone, senior correspondent for huff post and author of the ten-year war, a book about obamacare. jonathan, i wanted to talk to you now because the battle fo...

Low-income seniors would be hurt the most. sfwlt subsidies under the senate bill -- >> hold on. the biggest spikes in uninsurance, and i'm just saying what the cbo said, the biggest spikes in uninsurance come from older low-income customers who would also have the hardest time finding affordable insurance. what do you think? >> look, if we're talking about the cbo, let's just think about how they did predicting -- >> no, no, answer my question. we don't have time to talk about the cbo's methods. do you think it's a valuable trade-off to have lower income people, the oldest and lowest income pe...

Jonathan cone senior editor at the flu republic and supporter and avik roy opinion editor at forbes. he's been an ardent critic. you guys do it on the policy front. let's ask this basic thing. 6 million. jonathan, you've been a supporter of this but criticized certain things. should they be spiking the football the way the administration was this week that they got 6 million? >> i don't know but i take it as a promising sign. there were stories this week about people lining up around the block to sign up in time for the end of the month. we still have a few days to go. i don't know where the f...

Unrepealable? there's, too. many people that have health care, throw 6 million in, 4 million more in medicaid, 3 million that have gotten insurance based on being 26 or under, 15 million people this law gave health care to, the law itself is now unrepealable? >> i don't think that's the word i'd use. i do think those measures or those numbers you just brought up do indicate it will be difficult to repeal. it's called the affordable care act. and is it actually making health care an less expensive? for the people who benefit from the subsidies and those programs, they're going to benefit. but t...

Million more in medicaid, 3 million that have gotten insurance based on being 26 or under, 15 million people this law gave health care to, the law itself is now unrepealable? >> i don't think that's the word i'd use. i do think those measures or those numbers you just brought up do indicate it will be difficult to repeal. it's called the affordable care act. and is it actually making health care an less expensive? for the people who benefit from the subsidies and those programs, they're going to benefit. but there are going to be a lot of other people who pay higher premiums under obamacare. i...