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I mean, you know, alastair had a job to do and jonathan haslam, when he was with jon major and gus o'donnell, had a job to do. and they did theirjob to the best of their ability. and they're going to say, "i think you got the story wrong. " and you say, thank you very much for, you know, and you listen to why and you think, well, do i believe that? do i think that squares with the the contacts i've had with various people? if it does, i'll take it. and if it doesn't, i will ignore it. i think much more serious today is the problem we have with fake news, where absolute falsehood can take hold ...

Tony blair was in opposition, and there was a certain obsession about spin doctors beating up the media. and i kind of thought it was all lunacy. i mean, you know, alastair had a job to do and jonathan haslam, when he was withjon major and gus 0'donnell, had a job to do. and they did theirjob to the best of their ability. and they're going to say, "i think you got the story wrong." and you say, thank you very much for, you know, and you listen to why and you think, well, do i believe that? do i think that squares with the the contacts i've had with various people? if it does, i'll take it. and...

And obviously the period when tony blair was in opposition, and there was a certain obsession about spin doctors beating up the media. and i kind of thought it was all lunacy. i mean, you know, alastair had a job to do and jonathan haslam, when he was withjon major and gus 0'donnell, had a job to do. and they did theirjob to the best of their ability. and they're going to say, "i think you got the story wrong." and you say, thank you very much for, you know, and you listen to why and you think, well, do i believe that? do i think that squares with the the contacts i've had with various people?...

If you can, jon, then i want to bring the sheen in. but sure. let me just quickly say that, look, i was a political correspondent for ten years. you know, two or three of those two of those years when alastair campbell was press secretary to the prime minister. and obviously the period when tony blair was in opposition, and there was a certain obsession about spin doctors beating up the media. and i kind of thought it was all lunacy. i mean, you know, alastair had a job to do and jonathan haslam, when he was withjon major and gus 0'donnell, had a job to do. and they did theirjob to the best of...

Was and is a liar and who coincidentally works for borisjohnson. so i think that on the broader point, yes, adam is right, that we were more robust, but the reason for that goes back to the point i made earlier, the media ecosystem, a lot of it is still set by the written press, which is still very right wing rules. can i come quickly? if you can, jon, then i want to bring the sheen in. but sure. let me just quickly say that, look, i was a political correspondent for ten years. you know, two or three of those two of those years when alastair campbell was press secretary to the prime minister. ...