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Lousy idea. >> you arite right -- you are right on that. this is constitutional and it's a good idea, in my opinion. the 56% said, it's constitutional, let's move on, let's make it work. i think that's what the people are saying to us. >> greta: let me turn to the tax question. the taxes, under the president's plan, taxes will go up for those who make $250 thrnd or more a year. on outcry by some, saying it will hurt small business owners. the democrats say it's a very small proportion. how do the americans know who to obviously this? >> well, i think the fact of the matter is, if you look at t...

Lousy idea. >> you arite right -- you are right on that. this is constitutional and it's a good idea, in my opinion. the 56% said, it's constitutional, let's move on, let's make it work. i think that's what the people are saying to us. >> greta: let me turn to the tax question. the taxes, under the president's plan, taxes will go up for those who make $250 thrnd or more a year. on outcry by some, saying it will hurt small business owners. the democrats say it's a very small proportion. how do the americans know who to obviously this? >> well, i think the fact of the matter is, if you look at t...

Health care bill for a vote and you and the house -- >> i agree to that right here, right now. you know what? the thing that the american people are most frustrated with -- washington. they are tired of the gimmicks and the accounting tricks. they want to get rid of that. put the plan up, let the best idea win. i will tell you, democrats won't pass the president's tax plan. it won't solve the problem. tell drive the economy further down. the president said two years ago, you don't raise taxes in a down economy -- >> greta: why -- >> bill clinton said, don't raise taxes -- >> greta: what do you...

Influence of europe. i am not sure you can compare decades to each other, economically. >> you can certainly compare the naysayers in 1993 who said when we adopted the program, the economy was going to go into the tank and unemployment would go off the charts. none of that happened. we had a good economy. you are right, this is a different time, a different economy, which is why we are saying, everybody's $250,000 taxable income for everybody -- all 100% of us, it is first $250,000 won't see a tax increase. but we have a deficit and debt problem. everyone understands that. it's a very serious ...