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Believe me. like, people did not tune in -- >> your way to reach out in the country to -- >> yeah, and you can feel it, right it was hard to get people motivated. it was the store the final act of the obama presidency. so i think people were sort of a little bit checked out. they kind of recovered from the great recession. double trump did not come on the scene yet. so, just looking at that 14 million vote difference, right? between 85 and 125. the only thing i will say is this. i do worry about expectations for tomorrow on the right, for this reason. conservative media has told its base there...

People have to work hourly jobs, that's your democratic electorate. they vote early. that's your early voter, so to the polls, right? and then on election day, it used to be awash. you know what the defense used to be? absentee, because in 2004, we really thought, okay, democrats are gonna do okay. and then the absentee from republicans wiped out the democrats. and in 2014 thing, too. now the trump has turned republicans against absentee, we know absentee is probably leaning d, and now, the only question is can they get it done that one day? >> that's exactly right. >> i think, too, there was ...

Night in the house, if it ever came to a scenario where democrats had a shot at keeping control of the house, that would mean they end up with 220, 221 seats, something like that, just over that 218, that would necessarily mean, as you're saying, that it would come down to the west coast, it would come down to california. there's a whole bunch of seats that democratic majority would depend on in california. then the whole world would discover what political junkies have known for years now, that california is the slowest, most glacial straight at getting their reporting out. >> and the whole n...

Whether you care a lot or not at all. it doesn't answer the question. i don't know if you're taking those calls anymore, if you are that kind of voter. i also think that this idea that the dogs vote early, it's 50 years the president was overturned. you don't get over it, in like 12 weeks. i also think that the trap that the right set is that if you care about democracy, you are indifferent to economic angst. you are not. i have watched all these democratic candidates, they all understand, and i bet you they all know the price of milk, meat and bread, and all of their grocery stores in their d...

Predicting is that what's important is what happens tomorrow, and the polls thus far have been interesting but nothing as joy put it, the only poll that matters is the vote. a man who knows that better than all of us put together, joins us now. he is mandela barnes, the lieutenant governor of the great state of wisconsin. is the democratic candidate challenging republican incumbent senator ron johnson in a race that is absolutely crucial for both sides. lieutenant governor barnes, real pleasure to have you with us tonight. thank you so much for making time. >> well, thank you so much for havin...