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Deliberately impairing the integrity or available of evidence would be an obstruction, is that correct? >> yes. >> so what if a president told a witness not to cooperate with an investigation or hinted at a pardon? >> you know, i'd have to know the specific. i'd have to know the specific facts. >> would it be appropriate to go against the advice of career ethics officials that have recommended recusal, and can you give an exactly or situation or scenario you would go against a recommend digs you recuse yourself. >> there are different recusals, some are mandated and others judgment calls. >> l...

Handle the matter properly. and i still have that confidence today. >> do you believe mr. mueller would be involved in a witch hunt against anybody? >> i don't -- i don't believe mr. mueller would be involved in a witch hunt. i believe the russians interfered or attempted to interfere with the election, and i think we have to get to the bottom of it. >> the issue of recusal also came up today. current acting a.g. matthew whitaker who was critical of the investigation refused to recuse himself. here was barr's response to the committee. >> let's imagine it was a judgment call and the judgment b...

Well might be because of, you know -- who's confirmed for what and who's in what position, but apart from that, it's a judgment call and the attorney general is the person who makes the judgment and that's what the job entails. >> as a general matter that's true, but specifically on this issue, under what scenario would you imagine that you would not follow the recommendation of the career ethics officials in the department of justice or recuse yourself from the mueller investigation? >> if i disagreed with them. >> okay. we'll move on. senator feinstein asked you whether you'd put your june 2...

Their recommendation that you recused yourself? >> there are different kinds of recusals. some are mandated, for example, if you have a financial interests but there are others that are judgment calls. >> let's imagine it's a judgment call and the judgment by the career ethics officials in the agency are that you recuse yourself, under what scenario would you not follow their recommendation? >> if i disagreed with it. >> and what would the basis of that disagreement be? >> i came to a different judgment. >> on what basis? >> the facts. >> such as? >> such as whatever facts are relevant to the ...

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