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The campaign trail, there was a lot of criticizing of president bush and his policies. >> um-huh. >> i'm just wondering now, 12 months later, being the family in the white house, if your perspective on that has changed, in that, perhaps maybe it would have been better to be less judgmental. >> you know, i think that on the campaign trail my husband, his goal was to be truthful and honest about the problems that we faced. >> bill: okay. we didn't see a lot of her because of that dopey thing there. but you did pick up the tone of it? >> not only the tone. i mean, if you watch the initial second,...

For president, you were out on the campaign trail, there was a lot of criticizing of president bush and his policies. >> um-huh. >> i'm just wondering now, 12 months later, being the family in the white house, if your perspective on that has changed, in that, perhaps maybe it would have been better to be less judgmental. >> you know, i think that on the campaign trail my husband, his goal was to be truthful and honest about the problems that we faced. >> bill: okay. we didn't see a lot of her because of that dopey thing there. but you did pick up the tone of it? >> not only the tone. i mean, i...

You don't one a liberal or democrat so he must step aside and allow for republican to take his place. we need to be consistent across all issues. when it comes to the issues we need to be consistent nonpartisan. i think we all agree i think it's an philosophical difference between the parties and philosophies. typically it is people on the left to tend to be more judgmental about the way people behave. that makes her another liberal, charlie rose i think we get the clip a few weeks ago his talking about trump supporters and taken

You need us now ♪ katie: but some of the most shocking members of church members are those of the children, including this girl who can be seen singing a musical parody full of hate. >> ♪ y'all pretend you can lie every day disobeying god like it's all good ♪ katie: lauren drain writes about her experience in her new book called "banished, viaing my years in the westboro baptist church." lauren, thank you for being here today. [applause] >> thank you for having me. katie: you know, the last girl we saw in the video singing those hateful lyrics, that was you. when you see that, i mean, wh...

And so that is my version of go, rick, go. is this making any sense to you? >> yes, it does. and one can only hope that that would be the reaction in the republican party. if indiedrich santorum were to become the nominee and go down to defeat against president obama. the one thing about rick santorum's brand of conservatism is it's rather angry and judgmental. and moralistic. and the american people have shown time and time again that they're not too keen on angry, dark messages about the country and its future. they want someone conservative or liberal or progressive, however you want to des...