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President zelensky said repeatedly, no pressure. that is true. you might understand the circumstances why a smaller ally might not call out the president for squeezing him here. and saying the following in this interview, the republican congressman did not complete the rest of the quote. we're at war. if you're a strategic partner you can't go blocking anything from us, about fairness, saying what the core of this process is about here. ally at war, crucial aid was blocked. it's up to sitting congress men and women and the american people whether that's impeachable. on that issue, the ukrainia...

Today. many facts, including the president's own words in that famous phone call have been laid out before our very eyes and ears for months. despite the president's repeated efforts at a cover-up some have chosen to ignore those facts. what we have seen from those who chose to turn a blind eye is not a defense of the president's actions, because frankly, those defenses are indefensible. we have seen them attack the process and impugn your integrity. for that, i'm sorry. some opined instead of considering impeachment just let this pass and allow the people to decide what to do next or what to ...

Congress and for the constitution. >> jim schiutto. >> jonathan turlly's point was interesting because the effective argument was you haven't proven the case yet. if you prove a quid pro quo, you might have an impeachable offense. he was in effect saying, take more time, democrats, if you are serious about this process, go to the courts, if necessary, to compel witnesses essential to establish the president's direction for withholding the aid for political favor. that's one thing. i would say on the facts here, there are a lot of things the republicans in their defense use as facts, since been...

Were not constitutional because they could not call witnesses. republicans called three of the witnesses in the hearings of the intelligence committee and will have an opportunity to request witnesses in this committee as well. next, they said our proceedings were not constitutional because the president could not participate. when the committee invited the president to participate in this hearing he declined. the simple fact is that all these proceedings have all the protections provided prior presidents. this process follows the constitutional and legal precedents. i am left to conclude the ...

Through today's hearing, how should we think about that in terms of -- is it, by its very nature disrupting the constitutional balance of power to refuse evidence and have the main republican witnesses say, therefore there's not enough evidence to prove an impeachable offense. i thought that got to the heart of it. i was worried it would be a circus and we got through it and there didn't seem to be. >> it was pretty substantive, the whole 8 1/2 hours. >> no kidding. a lot of details came out. this is what i didn't understand about congressman collins' objection at the end there, how it was was...