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We weren't able to get more than a gallon of milk at the grocery store, and that lasts about a day. >> reporter: now julie is getting help from a program called "meals to you." inside this warehouse, you have stacks and stacks of food, including juice boxes, different types of cereals. and when you add it all up, you're talking about millions of meals going to families all across the country every week. the program began before the pandemic, spearheaded by baylor university and the usda, feeding about 4,000 rural kids a year. now, they're shipping meals to hungry families in 38 states. >> righ...

Separated, you know, as you said before. so it's not new. the problem is that dhs and border patrol have never actually tried to make, you know, the problem go away by actually providing the right, you know, places for children to be at without being in the hands of border patrol in these places that are really cold and terrible or, you know, being in facilities where they can actually be treated as children. >> well, what grabbed me was the portrait of a kid standing on a toilet to try to get fresh air because the room was so crowded he had to get above the crowd of people around him jammed i...

Juice boxes? this is just about a third grade level what he's doing here. jonathan, in washington i don't know what kind of talk this engendered, the tit for tat but at its bigger than that. i think to a lot of people nancy pelosi can truly outmaneuver the president. he has no team around him and seemingly no sense of strategy. >> they went into this shutdown fight without a clear plan. and to the, te extent to which had a plan, it was based on a misreading of nancy pelosi. some of them didn't share this view but i would say a majority view from the conversations i've had was that they believe...

And nobody seemed to care. because it's like it's just a bunch of illegals, who cares if they're put into ice boxes. now it's happening to children who don't have the resistance to survive being put into the refrigerator for days. they just don't. >> john kelly was part of the decision making architecture to reduce the number of refugees we are taking into the united states. we are doing this at a time when the global population of refugees has doubled over the last six years. so when you don't allow people to come in, when you cut the number of legal immigrants which is another john kelly thi...

Journey, which we know the train, the rape, the whatever, what surprised me in my many years is when they'll say, all of that was really hard. but the most traumatic stuff happened once we crossed into the united states. we were taken by immigration officials whether they're border patrol or i.c.e. we're put into refrigerators, ice boxes. this is why children are dying. adults, we have the resistance to be put into the room that is -- who knows what temperature. they're going to say it's to keep it sanitary, but it's a form of hygiene. >> they're saying they don't have water. >> so the trauma ...