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When obama care as we're all calling it is a whole lot more than a website, a whole lot more than the 6 million americans who are losing their health insurance plans now but as you said will get better plans later, and so what i think he's trying to do is trying to just stop the bleeding, stop the political bleeding, and try to move the conversation forward. >> well, to your point and david corn this is how twisted i think the whole situation has become. while there is a vote in the house next week, the republican-controlled house, it will be an advocacy vote for underinsurance. what happened ...

Care as we're all calling it, is a whole lot more than a website, a whole lot more than the 6 million americans who are losing their health insurance plans now, but as you said, we'll get better plans later. so what i think he's trying to do is trying to stop the bleeding, stop the political bleeding and try to move the conversation forward. >> well, to your point, and david, this is how twisted i think the whole situation has become, when there is a vote in the house next week, it will be an advocacy vote for under insurance. >> yes. >> what happened to the notion of personal responsibility? ...