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Zimmerman, in taking out his gun and pulling the trigger, did nothing wrong? >> i'm 101% that he was -- that he should have done what he did except for the things that he did before. that's not the way i wanted to say it, but -- >> you mean he shouldn't have gotten out of the car, he shouldn't have pursued trayvon martin, but in the final analysis, in the final struggle -- >> when the end came to the end -- >> he was justified. >> he was justified in shooting trayvon martin. after that interview first aired monday night, four jurors released a statement saying opinions of juror b-37, quote, ...

Saw it coming from our perspective. >> joy reid, your reaction to that. >> i think he is absolutely right, tracy martin in a sense challenged what we heard from juror b-37, who essentially espoused the view that she couldn't think of trayvon martin as anything other than a child. she just couldn't fathom it. that is why she went in as an acquittal juror from the beginning. and that illustrates another problem with stand your grown, because the problem is those kinds of disconnects, the way people relate to one another, the concept that people fear one another based on race, dress and appearanc...

Juror b-37 told cnn that they had discussed stand your ground. in fact, she twice of her own accord mentioned stand your ground. so for anyone to say stand your ground had nothing to do with the case, it's strange. it's false. it's like, you know, on my end it's almost like describing a sphere to a flat earth society person. i just can't understand why they say it has absolutely nothing to do with it. it is an argument of degree, but we don't know the degree. it had something to do with it. also understand this about stand your ground, a big change it made. before it passed in 2005, florida ha...

>> i don't think they could connect with them. in the sense that they're not looking through the eyes of an african-american parent. they don't know what it is like to be an african-american. they don't know all of the trials and tribulations, so i think the disconnect was, maybe they have kids and they never figured that their kids would ever have to be put in that position. whereas we on the other hand, we understand that society is cruel. and i just don't think that they saw it coming from our perspective. >> joy reid, your reaction to that. >> i think he is absolutely right, tracy martin i...

Repealing it or changing it. >> because of the national attention to this case, and because florida's pioneering stand your ground law ended up being copied and done in a lot of other states, two dozen other states around the country almost, a lot of people are looking at the george zimmerman verdict and the trayvon martin case in general and hearing very conflicted analysis as to whether or not stand your ground is important. was determinative, even, as to what happened in that case. having watched the case closely, is stand your ground effectively the definition of self-defense in florida? w...