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The verdict in the murder trial, michael dunn, has many asking just what the heck was the jury thinking? and more to the point, just what does it take to convict someone of murdering an apparently unarmed black teenager in the state of florida? another young black man dead. another armed defendant pulling the trigger and telling a florida jury he feared for his life and another verdict that sends waves of anguish and frustration through a community hoping this time the law would deliver justice, that this time the jury would say to the parents of this young black man and the parents of young b...

Diana tennis, jim hammer, bernie grimm and ted williams. ted, first to you because you sat through some of the trial. your thoughts? >> well, i sat through the trial and i have listened to this alternate juror. as a matter of fact, i think i know who this alternate juror is. i was very observant of the jury. i think he called it the way he saw it. i mean, he -- focus specifically on the injuries. he apparently -- you could see looked at the stand your ground portion of it as here. i don't have a problem with this juror, greta. look. the prosecutors and the defense had to present evidence to th...

Diana tennis, jim hammer, bernie grimm and ted williams. ted, first to you because you sat through some of the trial. your thoughts? >> well, i sat through the trial and i have listened to this alternate juror. as a matter of fact, i think i know who this alternate juror is. i was very observant of the jury. i think he called it the way he saw it. i mean, he -- focus specifically on the injuries. he apparently -- you could see looked at the stand your ground portion of it as here. i don't have a problem with this juror, greta. look. the prosecutors and the defense had to present evidence to th...

Think george zimmerman is a vigilante, thug, out to kill and out to be aggressive towards a young man walking through the neighborhood or whether they believe george zimmerman was walking through an area after making phone call to the police and trayvon martin jumped out at him and he was the atbressor going down fighting for his life. it depend on the jury. you may be persuaded and i may be pe persuaded by the cross-examination. what is the jury thinking? do they see him as a thug, a slij land tee trying to get trayvon martin. or do they see him as a neighbor and he tries to retreat and trayv...

Deliberation room? >> well, you know, look, as a defense attorney anytime you have the jury thinking, especially on a case like this where the forensic evidence is very strong, you know, that's a good sign. the longer they deliberate, the more likely it is, they enhance the possibility that there may be one holdout juror that could at least end in an acquittal. so i think that's at least some positive sign for the defense. arthel: fred, who do you think has the most compelling case at this point? >> well, i mean, you know, it may be positive for the defense, but it would be the first positive ...