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Us to the point where we're really making progress. i think it will happen. i really do. >> you think it will happen? >> i'm optimistic about this. >> all right. mr. secretary, thank you very much. >> thank you, david. >> and coming up later in the program our political roundtable. analysis from the fallout from the sequester debate and how it can affect the economy and markets. first the nation's governors are meeting this weekend here in washington. we have two of them meeting here this morning for a debate. the chairman of the republican governors association, louisiana's bobby jindal and d...

Cutting a program that's started yet, just delay -- >> governor patrick, i'm looking at our sheet here. more than 60,000 cuts with the department of defense and non-department of defense in your state alone, job losses because of sequestration. >> this is about growth, always about growth from the president's perspective and ought to be about growth from the american people's perspective and all of our point of view. government has a role to play in that. the president understands that. i've listened to my good friend here, governor jindal, who has talked about these issues as if they are budg...

There's opportunities on a bipartisan basis to reform for this program for those governors who are expanding and not expanding. i do believe everybody in america has access to affordable hillary clinton. i agree with what the president said in 2009. doesn't make sense to put more people without expanding it, reforming it. >> governor? >> national health care is based on our own experiment in massachusetts. it's been wildly successful. over 98% of our residents have access to medicare, 99.3% of children, i think it is, of children. i don't think any other state in america can touch that. there ...