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Ideological point of view. having professors who have a different perspective, right, who aren't conventional life style liberals, it's fine to have liberal protesters, but maybe throw a moderate professor in there, too, or a conservative professor, too, colleges spend a huge amount of time and enormous amount of money trying to diversify the pool of applicants to the college, but little on ideological issues: the proof is in the pudding with the study. 14,000, thank you, tucker. >> thank you. >> president obama's counterterrorism chief making a startling comment about gitmo detainees. and who...

This is a grievous moral wrong. >> chris: but respectfully, sir,, let me just say but the blunt amendment wasn't just talking about catholic institutions or colleges or charities. it was saying any you know, u.s. steel, any company, any insurance company could decide not to offer birth control. >> if there was -- if -- it wasn't about birth control. it was about a moral exception to any type of mandate. it didn't specify birth control. >> chris: including birth control. any treatment. >> this is a conscience clause exception which used to be unanimously agreed to. daniel patrick monahan offere...