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At the president's former attorney and fixer michael cohen. he says that the president knew in advance about the june meeting. and also, the secretly recorded meeting of trump and cohen, and rudy giuliani said that he wants everybody to hear all of the tapes even as he railed against cohen. >> you call ed him an honorable honor. >> how would i know? i have not had a bad deal with mi michael, and i did not know that he had taped conversations sur rep tisch shousely and grossly violate the attorney/client privilege and por tetend to the recordings without letting the other person know. >> and ho...

Michael allen is managing director of beacon local strategies. he formerly served for republicans on the house intelligence committee. the perfect people to join me to help understand just how significant this all is in. mi michael, this question that looms over all of this. what does this really mean in terms of the extent to which jah rerd kushner can continue to do his job. he has been put in charge of brokering peace in the middle east, working on china. will he be able to serve effectively? >> i don't think so. i think he's been severely wounded. i worked in the white house for seven year...

Him. the reason we bring it up is we have moved away from the potential problems of conflicts. the hotel there in d.c. has become like a salon effect for the president. it is a meeting center of influentials in a way it never was before. and it's not a coincidence. the golf courses, the hotel, people want to do business with the president. >> and the family is profiting from these relationships and ongoing businesses and have done nothing to create a real firewall that should make people think twice about whether their decisions are coming from a public policy standpoint or financial interest....

Lack of boundaries in the trump family between their business roles, public service roles, the president's own facility with moving his children in and out of meetings or settings that are appropriate or inappropriate. i don't think they care. i think their view of this as a family is they're all suited to play any role their father wants them to play. and i think the g20 summit was an example of that. >> this is one of those -- i'm not a big fan of what about-ism. you have to deal with each case as it stands. politically, if you had had a clinton in the white house and chelsea clinton popped ...

>> yeah. mi >> michael, what are you looking for, for sally yates' testimony on monday? >> it's going to be really interesting because sally yates has made it clear that she wen to don mcgahn, the white house counsel, to warn him that flynn could be compromised because what he was saying publicly, what the white house was saying publicly was not true. >> right. >> and she knew this because she was able to examine or get reports on the classified transcripts of the u.s. intelligence surveillance of kislyak. now, it's not clear -- and i would be surprised if yates is going to be able to refer to...