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this is a little bit like groundhog day. it is not the repetition that we have come to think but if the groundhog sees its shadow, you get six more weeks of winter. nikki haley and ron desantis want to be close enough so this campaign last another six weeks. >> thanks. katelyn? >> my guest is a popular conservative radio host, a former iowa senator. jeff angelo, thank you so much for being here. what are you hearing about how today is shaping up with the weather? what this could look like? >> yeah. i think we are going to see hard-core republicans, hard- core trump supporters showing up. that will give trump the win. i think that ron desantis is feeling good about his turnout operation in iowa and that he can get the strong second place finish. i do not think we are going to see a record crowd tonight.

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marjorie taylor greene creation, and everything she's doing at this point is completely not, so we've got to take it for what it is and try to get the business done for the american people. >> we will have to leave it there. thanks. former president trump lawyers had discussions with the judge presiding over his new york civil trial on allowing the president to speak tomorrow during his closing defense. we have learned that the judge indicated he does not expect trump to speak in court because trump failed to comply with the judge's precondition terms. katelyn, what were those precondition terms? >> the judge made it clear. earlier today, we did learn the full story that trump's lawyers had said to the judge in new york, we want him to speak, he wants to speak and address the court for a closing argument,

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anyone thought that the ron desantis saw in these debates would've ever been anything. tonight you understand what the potential was, though i think it's largely been wasted. and nikki haley was nikki haley she's always great. >> nikki haley is generally always the smartest person in the room, saved for cnn's erin burnett was there with him. she has a command of the facts, she is always able to work or biographical experience to show her leadership. when i was in the u.s. and i was in gaza. when i was governor i did x y and z. she sews that she looks presidential when she talks about serious policy. i would say performance wise, it probably wasn't her strongest night. but she always wins on the substance. ukraine is going to be a very key issue in this gop primary. there's a very definitive split. donald trump will not continue into ukraine. he is not going to give aid to zelenskyy's government. ron desantis gave kind of a vague answer when katelyn pushed him on. it nikki haley was very definitive. she will continue to support ukraine. on desantis, i think it was probably one of his strongest performances. he really honed in on an

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call, what he perceived it to be as it gets worked out. and that hearing is going to be really important because it's not going to be just about meadows ultimately. there are other officials who work for trump, maybe even trump himself, who could try to argue this case should be in federal court without cameras rather than state court. >> and it was important for you, katelyn, to play that sound again, not just what the former president said but meadows as well. these were results that were confirmed. there was no evidence of fraud. those things had already been explored. and yet they were asking in effect to overturn those results. katelyn polantz, thanks so much. let's go to the fulton county jail. that's where our paula reid is. the fulton county jail. that's where the former president is going to have to surrender himself today. >> reporter: that's exactly right, jim. while the former president is not expected to be here for at least another six hours or so, you're already seeing demonstrators, both in support of the former president and those opposed, coming here to

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giuliani to be coming here as perhaps one of the most well-known former prosecutors in america, and obviously one of the most well-known people among the people charged in this case among the 19, except for maybe donald trump himself. we have seen more than half of the people who are indicted in this case already go through their bond negotiations, we are starting to see them turn themselves in, be arrested, have mug shots taken even. so rudy giuliani will be one of the next ones to put on that list. really important to see exactly how it goes for him today because he has had a couple hard weeks where even money has been difficult for him to come by to fight some of these cases. >> no, absolutely. how he is paying for his defense, very much an issue right now. we will be following the former mayor's movements. katelyn, keep us posted. thank you very much. sara? november night two more of donald trump's co-defendants surrendered to the fulton county jail in georgia, both were key players in the fake elector plot

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lot more going on in georgia, katelyn. >> reporter: of course, john. this morning we are awaiting the arrival of rudy giuliani now that he is in the air or on the road at least to get to georgia today, and what we are expecting is that giuliani wants everything to be taken care of that he needs to do to respond to this criminal indictment. he wants his bond negotiation to happen and have that set and done and then he also wants to go to the jail and be arrested, apparently, according to the reporting that we've put together here at cnn on what his intentions are. the reason for that is because he wants to get it done before donald trump would be coming into town tomorrow. there is a lot of questions around their relationship, how it is existing right now, if they are going to be taking the same approach to this case and other investigations around january 6 like the federal investigation, but it is a really big moment for rudy

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time, that's why he and other lawyers would be working out bond conditions ahead of time so they can move very quickly because that is a different aspect of the criminal justice system at that jail that trump and others would have to face, trump now being a criminal defendant in four different cases, this process will look a little bit different than what he had to do in federal court when he was arrested. >> thank you so much for that is correct katelyn. here with me, former fbi director andrew mccabe, former federal prosecutor elliot williams and cnn's evan perez. evan, what are you hearing -- let me just start by asking you this and i want these other two gentlemen to add to it. for those of us who have not surrendered to allegations and to indictments, particularly in a place like fulton county, which as katelyn rightly pointed out is going to be a very different process, and atmosphere, even in new york, but certainly with the federal

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they're asking for. they say that the government's subjective is clear to deny president trump a fair ability to prepare for trial. the court should deny the government's request. poppy and phil, whether the judge will buy that argument still remains to be seen. she is going to have them in court in a couple weeks to talk about a trial date. there are a couple reasons why this trial may need to go to trial quickly, and the justice department has argued that one reason is that the american public deserves to see this case settled because it is about an election. >> katelyn, a number stood out to me what the justice department is asking for in terms of the length of the prison sentence for the leaders of the proud boys. you've got some reporting on this about the their in the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol. what can you tell us? it is a long time. >> it's a whopper of a number from the justice department

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seditious conspiracy. they brought that army of violence to the capitol to exert their political will. for years these defendants intentionally positioned themselves at the vanguard of political violence in this country. they brought that violence to the capitol on january 6 in an effort to change the course of american history, and the sentences imposed by this court should reflect the seriousness of their offenses. so the seriousness should not be lost of january 6 as we head forward and still watching them be sentenced in court. this sentencing will not happen for another couple of weeks. it is certainly a court proceed that go will have quite a bit of importance especially if these men get the most severe sentence related to january 6th and even a longer sentence potentially from what the justice department is asking than the oath keepers and others. >> wow. katelyn, thank you for that reporting. and now a sign of the weight and potential magnitude of the charges outlined in the georgia

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and other leaders, 33 years, zachary reels, 30 years. dominic pizzola, 20 years. to compare this, the leader of the oath keepers, stewart rhodes, received a sentence of 18 years in prison, and the justice department asked for 25. and so the justice department wants things to be more significant for the proud boys because of the revolutionary role that they played. they called them political vanguards in this country. people at forefront of political violence for quite some time. >> yeah, notably, katelyn, you also have some reporting on a potential appeal that could undue sentences for other january 6 rioters? >> yeah, we actually got a decision today from the appeal's court in washington, d.c., a federal court, that decided a rioter, a man named james little, who had been sentenced both to some prison time, a short amount of prison time, and probation that he could not have both of those sentences at the same time because he was convicted of a petty offense, a

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