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But yes, the push back was this idea that it was a flippant remark and he wasn't taking it seriously. but i think what it really shows is just the absolute tumult that was happening in the spring of 2017 and the pressure and as pete has reported, other people have reported, the intense pressure that this investigation and this president were putting on rod rosenstein in particular. and he was really struggling to be the acting attorney general on this russia case at a time when it seemed like everything was going crazy. >> and pete, just in terms of the 25th amendment itself, we've heard a lot...

One of the things that came out of that hearing was that -- by the way, they were all prime time on regular television at the time. this consumed the country. it was a real education in the advise and consent role of the senate, which i know you've emphasized tonight, and people came out of it smarter about how these nominations are happening. >> one of the weak arguments, in my opinion -- you feel free to judge me as wrong. but for a trump supporter to say this should happen behind closed doors, if we've learned anything in the current political environment, we need as many doors open and for...

Good to have you both. carrie, you get first crack. why am i wrong? >> look, i think it is great that we're going to have an opportunity to hear from both sides, and i think people should do their best with the case of allegations like this. it does boil down to a test of credibility and a test of he said/she said. i think what we have here, on one side we've got 35-year-old uncorroborated allegation. >> not completely. >> that she didn't mention anyone for at least 30 years, right? on the other side, we have judge kavanaugh saying this didn't happen at all, period. we have everyone who is men...

He was a man who was respectful to women, who was always dignified. we have several other women coming out saying how he treated them in a personal respect. anytime this happens, we can't go back. she doesn't even know exactly which year or where this was. there's no way to go back and get evidence outside of trying to judge the believability and the credibility of these witnesses. and what i have seen is we have someone whose character is unquestioned in every other area. we've got six fbi background checks, didn't turn up -- this is not a me too type situation where everyone is going, oh, ye...

Anything in this kavanaugh case. it is emphasizing why we need the hearings, why the hearings need to be open hearings. >> right. >> because what part of what we're dealing with here, look, whether this woman is speaking the truth or not, people will get a chance to judge for themselves. if she's not a credible witness -- >> true. >> -- then kavanaugh is -- >> although she is a college professor. but obviously he has -- and, again, not to prejudice him at all, but he's got a lot of advantages. one, he's got a lot of people invested in making him look good on that panel. and, two, he is very sa...