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Long as that happens and takes his phone call, he's not going away. >> if bannonism can't win in alabama, you have a fundamental problem. >> and they're a core constituency in the republican party that is a bannon and moore constituency. >> we will play with this with congressman king when he's on the show. debb debbie dingell was on with alisyn. me too matters. decency towards minority and women matters, and my wallet matters well. flint, michigan, they are still hit hard. take bannon out of it and that's a raw populism that matters and that's why the vote margin that just got narrowed in the...

Necessary if not vital to help jones win. so do you have a sense of how much black voters are energized in this race? >> right. yeah. i went down. i just got back from alabama. i went down expecting that roy moore had a lock. i came back thinking that jones has a chance but in order to win he's really going to need heavy turnout from african-american voters. they're the core constituency of alabama democrats, about 27% of the population overall and he's going to need basically every one of them. he's only expected to get about a third of white voters at best. a lot of black voters were not fir...

Talking about that. >> we'll do it later, yeah. >> it's a tough situation for them politically. because they seem -- there seems to be no option to get him off the ballot. they didn't want him there to start with. and they're just kind of stuck. and i think one key thing i take from this we've seen lots of allegations against lots of different men over the last few weeks. in most of those cases, a lot of people come out of the woodwork very quickly once one person comes forward. and they're fired, they step down, whatever. those reactions out of alabama, at least from his top supporters, are p...

People come out of the woodwork very quickly once one person comes forward. and they're fired, they step down, whatever. those reactions out of alabama, at least from his top supporters, are pretty striking. they're invoking the bible in his defense, right? so the key -- what i take away from this is, how these things go down all depends on who your constituency is. >> that's right. >> i think it's clear roy moore's core constituency does in and out care, or he is more important to them than these allegations are. >> we should note rosie, one of the most incredible things that happened is he's...

Who is your constituency? donald trump's core constituency did not care. and i think what we are seeing right now, at least on first blush, that is roy moore's core constituency does not care. >> there's also a question here, this is a guy i follow on twitter, richard alex smith, an alabama political operative, he was tweeting about this. he said, i cut my campaign teeth and actual teeth in alabama. roy moore has no path now, based on his historic performance. this is someone who's a democrat, right? i've only ever said that about democrats in my home state. there's a question if that constitu...