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Amounts of information about what they are to them their own people. i think what we have in wikileaks is an exposure -- >> sean: i don't mean to interrupt, fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, three times, five times, allegedly, julian assange at 16 hacked into the dod. hacked into nasa. he's 45. at what point is it america's fault that we have not built cybersecurity to prevent that from happening? do we blame our own government for its failure? >> i just have to say that i don't think our government should have as many secrets as they have. keeping information from us. >> sean: they're...

Director of national intelligence works for him. he should pick up the phone -- >> the fact he's under investigation. >> they work for him. if he wants to know what happened, did anyone wire tap trump tower, how did it happen, they have to tell him. he's the. the united states. the fact that he has to learn this information for chairman nunes is a really bad reflection on the people in the administration who are keeping information -- >> i assume that's why republicans want to see james comey and others back up on the hill. particularly, in closed session, so they can try and get at something ...

Protecting their social networks than they were in protecting national secrets. there's glory to be had among the hacker community for counting stealing stuff from the government. that glory should be taken away. pete: nasa rule changes 8 days before leaving office did. that make us, more susceptible in place by protocols in place. >> of course it did. there is a reason why something is considered classified and come part mejt meantized. the reason is not to keep information from the public for the sake of keeping information from the public. it's to keep information from the public so that ou...

Same thing. >> bob bare russia was able to hack into the state department and white house computers. what other countries are capable of doing the same thing? >> well, there's a lot of them. you can do this privately as well. we are all vulnerable on our cell phones and e-mail systems. i would imagine the chinese are into a lot of places they shouldn't be. the french could. you know south africans it doesn't matter. anybody that has the money to put towards it can get into the communication system and washington is notoriously slack of keeping information out of public channels and i think a l...

>> she's right. the number is impossible to accurately vet for the purpose of keeping information secure. it becomes more impossible to vet if you let them have access based on the security clearance and let them not have their items checked when they come in. >> i have had friends that got on the fbi. i have friend s in the secret service. i have friends that were on the nypd. the background check is extensive. >> that's correct. i travel to washington. i go to the house, the senate. used to go to the white house. >> not anymore? not lately? >> a while back. i go with police officers and secu...