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He returned classified documents that he had no right to have after his time in office. these notes taken by cochrane are providing more insight into trump's thinking and his actions around the time that criminal investigation was launched. and now, they sit in the hands of the special counsel, jack smith. joining us now is john dean, he was the white house counsel for richard nixon, and just like evan corcoran, john, you testified about your conversations with president nixon. so, as you listen to what has been reported here, in your mind, why would there even be dozens of pages of documents,...

>> well, you i know mr. trump in the past said he was surprised his white house counsel were keeping notes. i didn't take notes when i was a white house counsel. i didn't know there was a taking system, which unfortunately was there. the immediate problem for evan cochran is that he, i think, did suspect his client was a little squirrely, and he didn't know how things were going to turn out. so, he kept very detailed notes, parentally, down to as reported such things as his facial expressions during conversations. >> it does seem to suggest that corcoran had a sense that something was potentia...

Thank you both. now, as democrats continue to make one mistake after another ahead of the midterm elections, it is time for republicans now to focus on their agenda all across the country put their promises in writing, signed a contract with you the american people and move forward on the america first, make america great again agenda and they nee to do it the second they get into office. that would include launching ke investigations into biden's border failures. the biden family foreign dealings in syndicate, the chaotic withdraw from afghanistan, abandoning americans 332 days ago. very few ...

Policies to russia, by any measure president obama was much easier, was much more gentle on russia. you and i both recall obama leaning over on a hot mike and saying just before the 2012 election, tell vladimir i'll have a lot more flexibility after the election. now, there they weren't keeping notes, it just happened to be a network had a camera going. if you compare substance -- for example, trump went to nato and urged the europeans don't let the russians build a pipeline through europe. you want to talk about what actually makes a difference, standing up to russia, that on policy was far, ...

About what the president may seem to be exhibiting is a very different standard from that which would trigger any actions specifically under the 25th amendment. when we have seen it exercised in history, what are the circumstances? and what does it take? >> i don't think you're going to see the 25th amendment. that would be very large measure to take. there's no reason for the republicans to do it. instead you're having a containment strategy, how can the white house contain donald trump? it's now clear you won't stop his tweets and irrational behavior, but can you make sure there's not damage...