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Monetary deal out of this whole thing. you know, way back, years and years ago, during the iraq invasion in 2003, he was saying if we re going to go in, let s keep the oil. so this is one of these mantras that he recites all the time, and recited again in his bizarre press conference following the announcement that abu bakr al baghdadi had been killed. is there are all kinds of reasons for keeping troops in syria, even though he said they would be pulled out and now they re being reinforced in syria. but the only obvious clear reason that he gave is that he wants to hold on to the oil fields. can he hold on to them forever? no. eventually he will sell them to the russians and the syrians, they would be the only ones buyers for the fields but in the meantime he wants to protect them from the russians and the syrians, who attacked them a year ago, or year and a half ago, and so it is all part of a, sort of a trumpian extortion racket in which we don t pull ....
Except it looks as though president trump is trying to create the fiction of some kind of victory here, which is what he was doing in those remarks a couple of days ago. and at the expense of the lives of many kurds, the livelihoods of many kurds, the homes of many kurd, basically they re going to be ethnically cleansed from northeast syria, and he s keeping troops, lots of troops in the middle east, and even in syria, he s not bringing them home. so in fact, what he was talking about, a couple of days ago, was a complete fiction, and nobody was congratulating him then, much less today. christopher, you say that the syria presser was the craziest yet. you see it there, that headline. explain how. well, there were a number of things that were kind of delusional. there were places that he would wander offscript, and you could see him trying to keep from identifying the united states as ....
Really heard these details before. it reads, quote, mattis matd his case for keeping troops in syria. president trump rejected his arguments. 30 minutes into the conversation, mattis told the president, you re going to have to get the next secretary of defense to lose to isis. i m not going to do it. now, i should note jeffrey goldberg who wrote this piece said none of those details came from mattis himself, but still a pretty remarkable scene, no? well, yeah. it is. as you point out, john, it s not directly from jim mattis himself, but it is, i think, consistent. and i saw this when he was commander of central command, jim placed a very high premium on relations with our allies. he s not one who believes that the united states can go it alone. that s why i figured that with this america first approach, that jim s time as secretary of defense was limited. and i think the straw that broke the camel s back was leaving ....