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And democrats in contrast are clearly apprehensive about the president utilizing his power as commander-in-chief. to have these type of conversations with foreign leaders. >> and kevin, here's the president yesterday talking about the whistleblower, let's listen. >> i don't know the identity of the whistleblower. i just hear it's a partisan person. meaning it comes out from another party. but i don't have any idea. >> kevin, what do we know about the whistleblower. and how does the president know he or she is partisan? >> dara, we don't know much. because the department of justice has refused ...

Congress to get them as well. but the truth is, that congress is a much more political body than the special counsel is. and ultimately the special counsel's investigation is going to go to congress. the solution here is not some sort of prosecution of the president, but rather if something is found, that congress finds objectionable, a political solution, which would be the impeachment, removal route. we're a long way from any of that happening. >> this is to both of you in the end it's all about politics, right? with the gop holding both houses of congress, what are the chances that a republ...