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To a grand jury the very next day, and they were expecting that grand jury to indict the vice president. and, boy, did vice president agnew not want to be indicted. he did not want a criminal case against himself. that's why he was asking for the impeachment instead. he thought maybe that would derail this pending prosecution. he hoped the justice department would see that as a sort of constitutionally preferable and more simple alternative. maybe that would stop this criminal investigation, this pending criminal indictment, this expected criminal trial of him. it was a desperate gambit by spi...

Describing is not just you figured something out but believe mueller figured out something about the ruling of the payment to paul manafort but what appears to be a kick back in the prosuper pac, right? >> that is what appears to have happened and yeah, we have figured out that lawrence gay, paul manafort kind of installed this guy he trusted and to oversee $24 million that manafort suggested to gay that he hire tony fabrizio ad buying firm and that fabrizio and gay. one man's kick back scheme and they set up a secret commission split and essentially

They have spoken repeatedly with tony, with the guy that did pay paul manafort this money while paul manafort lied to them about it over and over and over again and in the course of figuring out the truth of that payment, mueller's office also uncovered a little bit of a kickback scheme. not particularly sophisticated system by which these guys were basically skimming off a bunch of money people donated at the super pac and keeping it for themselves. they discovered the truth of the payment and discover when getting to the truth of the payment there was a little scheme here, there was a kickba...

As the person that gave prosecutors what they believe to be true and corroborated information about that payment to paul manafort while manafort himself was lying about it over and over again. do you have any sense now about why manafort might have been lying about that over and over again? lawyers really described it as, you know, he got mixed-up. he got confused. he didn't remember the precise nature of it but the prosecutors documented he told three different false stories on three different occasions as they are questioning on it escalated. >> and if he was in fact trying to conceal any le...

He hire tony fabrizio ad buying firm and that fabrizio and gay. one man's kick back scheme and they set up a secret commission split and essentially overcharged these donors and i heard from lawrence gay's lawyer and he says his client has done nothing wrong. he's a criminal defense attorney and so we will see. gay's voice is very absent from these court documents. you know, whereas they are often obvious references to manafort, interviews and obvious references tony fabrizio's role. he's the truth teller in this as manafort tells different stories. fabrizio lays it out but the third man is re...