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Where there's just no legislation, right? because the democrats were elected in 2018, picked up a lot of seats based on an agenda, a lot of moderate voters, the president seems to calculate that, you know, stonewalling works for him politically, but folks are going to lose patience there, too. who has a greater risk? >> i think by far the executive has the greater risk. the term stonewalling in political use dates back to watergate. i remember as a kid hearing that, stonewalling, stonewalling, meaning staving off in what the end is somewhat inevitable. the tax returns, the financial informatio...

Remember as a kid hearing the name. and someone who has served and someone who has telling a compelling story that i think is a healing story for america. how she grew. many of us have grown from bitterness and from things in 20, 24 years. and to see that distorted and used in an ugly way, that would cost her almost, her career, had it not been corrected, i think it's very scary and i think it will have more impact than two or three days because if you can do that to the sherrods and do that on such a blatant distortion, then it has to make a lot of people wonder, whether or not they're the ne...

I didn't really need to hear him say those words. i did need to hear them from the secretary and some others, but not necessarily from him. >> did he use those words? did the president say "i'm sorry?" >> he didn't come out and say "i'm sorry" but in every way, the words he did say to me, i think meant "i'm sorry." >> larry: let's go round robin on this. was this a two or three-day summer story or does it have large race implications? >> i think the implications here is when you have someone of her stature, she was married to one of the leaders of -- i can remember as a kid hearing the name. a...