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>> jaime, we are falling behind compared to other countries with names i can't recall. but we are falling behind those countries because i hear about it a lot on this very station. they are countries like that one and the other one, the big one, the big scary one over there, that one especially where the guys look funny. what do you make of this? >> recess is a more important than cursive class. we pr not leading international tests in math and science. maybe after we are sufficiently teaching the kids math and science we can discuss cursive. my favorite part of the story is some educators que...

Underperforming schools. in kansas city where you lost half of the students, 50% enrollment, $50 million budget deficit. other states will have similar problems. >> but what do you think the likelihood is of a change in the outcome, particularly in the rhode island teachers. again a school system that i remember reading has about a 7% efficacy in teaching the kids math. then you got the teachers union involved now. how does that complicate things? might the teacher's union make a strong enough case to keep these teachers on board? >> it's very complicated and goes to a more general debate abou...