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A conspiracy by a gang called the free birds who, based on a set of gang rules that included rules like always stand by your brother, never do drugs and if a brother knocks on the brother, kill him. based on these supposed gang rules, this murder had to occur and that's the story the prosecution went with at trial and convicted them both and sentenced them to life in prison. >> dana: you said there was a woman coerced by police into testifying falsely. >> yeah. one of the -- it was a woman who had a party. the party hostess a few months after the shooting and she claimed that lee and dean were...

Like. and, third, just on the evidence in the trial, not only was the trump stuff part of it, but it was actually joined at closing by the defense. in other words, you can see this, and law authorities will see this as a likely determination by a jury of trump's involvement in the overall scheme. >> let me just follow up with you, harry litman, and i want to bring in susanne craig, does it say something about the strength of the evidence? is that how it strengthens the other examinations by tish james' office and bragg's office? >> yes, bragg is worried about going after the king if you can't ...

It's mischievous fun and, you know, that was a great part for that kind of devilish mischievous to come out. >> i drink your milkshake. i drink it up. >> don't bully me, daniel. >> with him, i saw a person working another way. once he was in character and people always say, he stays in character. it's kind of a mythology. well, it's easier, maybe not for the actor, but it's easier for me. it's not the actor, it's this character. i'm talking to bill the butcher. >> somebody steals from me, i cut off his hands. he offends me, i cut out his tongue. he rises against me, i cut off his head, stick i...

He's looking up for permission at a guy who is clearly nero, who is doing that, in other words, kill him. and i said, i'll do it. he said, you haven't read the script. i said, i don't care, i think we can get this right, let's do it. >> are you not entertained? are you not entertained? is this not why you are here? >> i must have had half a dozen phone calls with ridley about russell. thought that he was a really raw talent who was, i think, just discovering the power he had. >> slave, you will remove your helmet and tell me your name. >> he's marvelous. russell's big thing is that heart he ha...

Is going to end when i start writing it. so the thing about it is i'm writing the script and all of a sudden, the bastards are in the theater and the idea is to blow up the theater and kill hitler and go this is actually kind of working out. and it's like 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning and i have the idea. i took a piece of paper and i wrote, just f-ing kill him. and then okay, let me put that piece -- i don't know if that's a good idea or bad. let me put the piece of paper on my bedside. when i wake up, i'll look at it and know more if this is a good idea or bad. when i woke up the next morning,...