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>> with him, i saw a person working another way. once he was in character and people always say, he stays in character, it's a mythology, it's easier for me, it's the character. i'm talking to bill the butcher. >> somebody steals from me, i cut off his hands. he offends me, i cut off his tongue. he rises against me, i cut off his head, stick it on a pike, raise it high up so all in the streets can see. that's what preserves the order of things. >> once i saw daniel work that way, there was an intensity there that was very delicate. >> i am president of the united states of america, clothed in ...

That's not just undermining democratic institutions. that is treason. it's treason pure and simple and the penalty for treason under the u.s. code is death. that's the onlyen penalty. >> laura: if you can't beat them, kill them plan somehow that got zero pushback from the fine folks at morning joe. >> congressman joe walsh, do you agree? >> yeah, jow. look, this is a complicated -- >> donald trump has committed treason in the penalty for treason under american law is death. do you -- what's the legal framework here? >> laura: nice understanding of the law. leave it to them.do the people e law....

It couldn't be clearer and that's not just undermining democratic institutions. that is treason. it's treason pure and simple and the penalty for treason under the u.s. code is death. that's the only penalty. >> laura: if you can't beat them, kill them. somehow that i got zero pushback from the fine folks at morning joe. >> congressman joe walsh, do you agree? >> yeah, look, this is a complicated -- >> donald trump has committed treason in the penalty for treason under american law is death. do you -- what's the legal framework here? >> laura: nice understanding of the law. leave it to them. t...

Information on donald trump is disastrous and always has been in terms of re-election since inauguration day. you look at that but you go way beyond that. and so talk us through how you get to the point where tonight you can say you're sure that you can either say the democrat will get to 78 or possibly put a better way, donald trump will lose 278 electoral votes to the democrat whoever that is. >> and it really is important to go back to that night in november 2016 and think about how the mood of the electorate was and there was such a sense -- right now we have this invincibility complex for...

And all of the polling information on donald trump is disastrous and always has been in terms of re-election since inauguration day. you look at that but you go way beyond that. and so talk us through how you get to the point where tonight you can say you're sure that you can either say the democrat will get to 78 or possibly put a better way, donald trump will lose 278 electoral votes to the democrat whoever that is. >> and it really is important to go back to that night in november 2016 and think about how the mood of the electorate was and there was such a sense -- right now we have this in...