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And they are almost like human shields. they do our best to protect their lives and protect their human rights and their dignity as well. we have to protect these people, and that is where the rest of the caravan over past our security forces. >> laura: mr. secretary, we really appreciate it and we hope we continue to work with the united states government. this caravan has got to stop. it's unsustainable, and, it's no great shakes for you trying to do with it there as well. we will check back for you soon. the rabbi at the tree of life synagogue believe it or not, on another issue, is receivi...

>> laura: and they want the passport to reinforce this point why? >> it depends on the people. one, it's an escape hatch. it's a way to get out or at least get the kid out. the last helicopter off the embassy are much more likely to have your kid on it if it has a passport. number two, it's almost a retirement program for some people. then they have an easier way of getting into college and finally for some people it's a way of dodging the draft. if you don't want to serve in the turkish army, and i wouldn't, this is a way -- you send your kid here. >> laura: this is not what our framers inten...

Of new york officials. >> a lot of these operations are going to be like this, kind of sleazy -- i won't say black market but they are not properly registered. and there are that or higher quality, but this seems to be a discount operation. if you really have a lot of china will make money in china and he wanted to get a u.s. passport for your kid, there are higher and versions of this kind of thing and it's not just chinese. there are russian birth tourism, people from mexico, this is a big business and it's all legal. these people are not breaking our laws, we are the ones who have this set ...

And that's the angle. dr. john eastman is a senior fellow at the claremont institute and constitutional law professor at chapman and anniversary. anna fox news contributor. john, i want to start with you because you wrote in "the new york times" that birthright citizenship is not actually in the constitution. so why does the left think it i is? >> they have misunderstood one of the causes and the constitution. there's actually two requirements for automatic citizenship. you have to be born on u.s. soil, and you have to be subject to the jurisdiction. they read that last clause out of the const...

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