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And provide information to ukraine. those people are loyal to the man, prigozhin, not to the country, not to the mission. so we've got a lot more questions that are not answered right now. but i think from that perspective, i think that group splinters up and goes away pretty quickly. >> if it is true, what we are being told, and none of the actors in this, prigozhin, you know, the leaders in belarus, the leaders of russia are reliable brokers and honest. so we have to take everything worth a grain of salt. if we're led to believe that prigozhin goes to belarus and is no longer leading the wag...

Activities today. that is certainly up for debate. putin is not someone to forgive lightly. but there are opportunities for other members of wagner who are not involved in these activities to sign on. so in some ways this is almost an escape hatch for the wagner members who did not plan to sign on. >> that is really interesting. i wasn't aware that they had set a deadline for july, that the russians had set a dead lane for wagner forces. that says a lot about potential motivation for some of this. do you have a sense, you talked about the forces involved in the activities. this gives them the ...

Which seems to be sort of settling down now. but they continue to watch that and they continue to particularly watch belarus. just earlier this month, putin said that he made his first transfer of tactical nuclear weapons into belarus. obviously, that hasn't happened any more over the course of the last 24 to 36 hours. if there hasn't been a change to russia's talking in posture, according to u.s. officials, but they continue to watch that space incredibly closely. >> appreciate it. thank you. i want to bring in an expert on the wagner group with the nonprofit group of international studies. k...

Officials were entirely surprised. the u.s. has been keeping a close eye on the simmering tensions between the wagner group and the russian ministry of defense. as early as january, the national security spokesman john kirby referred to the wagner group as becoming a rival power center to the russian ministry of defense. and more recently, u.s. officials got a sense that prigozhin and the wagner group were indeed preparing something. in terms of when president biden or the administration are going to break their silence and really weigh in here, tomorrow, secretary of state antony blinken is s...

Places in africa and they have real financial benefits for russia and certainly for prigozhin. >> i think that's the real question that we're facing now and likely that prigozhin is facing. we don't know if any discussion about wagner's activities were part of that negotiation between prigozhin and putin today. but we do know that really the bulk of wagner's activity and the core of prigozhin's business empire does sit in africa. and particularly in sub saharan african states where wagner has specifically and changed its various paramilitary services for access to natural resources like gemsto...