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Military training that we know of. he essentially set up on the 32nd floor with automatic weapons and those weapons, their maximum effective range may be 500, 550 yards. the actual distance between the hotel windows down to where the crowd was, was 500 yards. and then he's also employing plunging fire the military tactic shooting rounds up and out and they basically come down like a pa rab bliss to go further than that. in this instance so much chaos. people didn't know where the rounds were coming from so instead of running out of the kill zone many might have stumbled and run back into it. >...

And -- >> right. >> your estimation was that he had two -- this is jims gag leeian notice, that he had two different sites. he was shooting from both sites, setting up with a tripod. >> the area where the concert goers, it was a ver itable killing field. what made this so difficult for the folks, we teach this for active sheerts with civilians. first thing to do is to run. second thing if you have to hide, secret yourself someplace where you've got some cover. third, fight is the last resort and then go and tell. that's what we tell them to do. for those concert goers, and they were down below...

That what these men and women did, even the slightest distraction capped countless lives from happening. this guy, hundreds of rounds. there was no escaping. there was 10-foot fences, we were trapped. it was a kill zone. >> trace: i think that quote will be hurt again as the whole world is kneeling, these guys were standing up. i am wondering about you, what was going through your mind? when you finally realized, this is legit, this is the real deal, what were you thinking? >> i mean, at first, i just thought it was fireworks, and no one was freaking out or anything and then all of a sudden, y...

And ran back into the kill zone. >> he set up two positions. when people said there was a delay -- >> what we surmise. certainly the crime scene experts are going over that room right now for any type of intelligence they can harvest and evidence they will determine all of that. what it looks like from first glance is two separate positions and that break could have been firing one weapon until he emptied it or the barrel hot hot and jammed and going to the second position and picking up from there. >> i want to play the video from today's massacre for you and we have to warn our viewers that ...

That what these men and women did, even the slightest distraction capped countless lives from happening. this guy, hundreds of rounds. there was no escaping. there was 10-foot fences, we were trapped. it was a kill zone. >> trace: i think that quote will be hurt again as the whole world is kneeling, these guys were standing up. i am wondering about you, what was going through your mind? when you finally realized, this is legit, this is the real deal, what were you thinking? >> i mean, at first, i just thought it was fireworks, and no one was freaking out or anything and then all of a sudden, y...