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They described a suspect who looked like christopher dorner. some sort of gunfight ensued there. it went on for about a half hour, and we understand from our sources that hundreds of rounds were exchanged there. they said the suspect fitting christopher dorner's description then took off on foot, took off into the woods and barricaded himself inside a cabin here. >> and we had several reporters listening to that scanner traffic. jacob rascon was there. he is stopped at one of the barricades, said that there were screams. you could hear the gunfire. they were saying that the suspect is has barr...

Local affiliatek n knbc who are reporting. >> the interesting thing that i also heard was automatic gunfire i heard as well. >> automatic gunfire we have been hearing reports about that, too. also chilling, the kill zone, the description that you heard on the scanner, and, again, as i just want to walk people through the picture they're seeing live on our air here at 1:39. this is a picture from news chopper 4 above the seven oaks area off highway 38 where a report of a man matching the description of christopher dorner crashed a vehicle, took off on foot, and by all indications there is an ac...

Who spoke out against al qaeda. operatives came to speak to him. as they were speaking under a tree to threaten him, missiles came down and took them out. what does that do in that community in terms of a sense of what america is doing, anger towards america and the fueling of more people who feel they want to join the cause of jihad? >> and the probable cause, by the way, jon meacham, now is -- and it really is -- if you're a man between certain ages and you are within the proximity of members who are suspected to be members of al qaeda, you are presumed guilty and they kill you. you're in th...

Trade with me, you know, i don't have body armor, i don't have long-range weapons, my radio, i don't have anything. and i'm in a situation where someone is actively engaging me, so at that point my -- one of my first things was a, take cover, b, try to get out of the kill zone, which -- and c try to keep people from going in there. gregg: the gunman had been convicted of killing his grandmother in the 1980s and served 17 years in prison after he pled down from murder to manslaughter. he was on probation until 2006. in webster last night the community gathered to remember the firefighters who w...

The gunfire because the last thing you want to do is make the mistake of traveling into that. try and identify it and move to the next piece of cover, even if it's only five feet away, you're going five feet at a time, once you get enough space, you're off of that kill zone, run. megyn: forgive me, but why get down and then move? instincts would say stay on your feet, run as fast as you can behind that potted plant. >> generally speaking, in a shooting like in the shooters tend to aim a little bit high. you are making a lower target of yourself by getting down, as simple as that. megyn: so it'...